Jay Roosevelt

This. We supposedly hired an "all-star" coaching staff and had finally "fixed" the OL. We knew we would be thin at WR, but figured the offense would be at least functional with what we have. Turns out the coaching staff isn't such an "all-star" group after all and the OL has been a disaster due to a complete lack of any passable depth. I also thought that pre-draft; now I wonder if ANY of them would be able to overcome this mess.

So let me get this straight... Dalton starts and we lose by more than we did last week but because he put up better numbers against the worst defense we've faced all year we should start him over Bryce? Please. Let me be clear, though; I'm not against sitting Bryce at this point because the way this OL is playing he's liable to get killed and/or completely ruined. Bryce is as pro-ready as advertised, IMO. This coaching staff and the team around him? Not so much.

Last I checked Andrew Norwell was still available.

I love how everyone has just decided that Bryce Young is a bust after 2 games when it's clear the team overall is a complete mess right now. If he were in the exact same spot but was 6'5 and 240 he'd still be the future of the team, but because he's not Cam Newton 2.0 a large portion of the fan base has already decided he's a bust. My concern isn't that Bryce is a bust, but that this clusterfug of an organization is going to ruin him before we ever have a chance to find out what he is.

Might want to put him on the bench where he belongs. He's just not ready. Is a 4th round rookie who missed most of camp really the best we've got for OL depth?

I can't fathom why we haven't gone out and signed some veteran depth for the OL. We knew we were short handed with Corbett out; why don't we have something better to field than this mess? Zavala clearly isn't ready and Cade Mays is hot garbage.

Easily the worst game of Ickey's career so far.

I'm going to give Ikcey a break since he's having to try and pickup some slack from Zavala filling in at LG - and is coming off his worst game of the year by far - but it is disappointing. His PFF grade was like 20 points higher on the year after the Saints game, IIRC. It's a reminder that, despite playing well overall last year, Ickey is still a young player with developing left to do.

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This is true. Dalton has been a good QB for over a decade in the NFL. Is he a starter today? Ideally, no. But there are worse starting QBs out there right now and I'm not talking about injured rookies. There's no question he's better than Zach Wilson right now. He certainly wasn't the reason we lost yesterday. That said, he still shouldn't be starting over Bryce Young as long as the OL is playing at a passable level. It certainly wasn't in Seattle, though. I wouldn't be opposed to them holding Bryce out until Austin Corbett returns; at least that should help stabilize the interior OL. It's one thing to have a rookie in Zavala struggling at one spot on the line (at least he's learning and gaining experience, in theory) but when both guards are playing like trash it forces both tackles and the center to try and compensate and has a ripple effect across the entire OL. With this awful scheme and play calling - not to mention ZERO run game - that's a good way to ruin your #1 overall QB.

Yep. Good ole Chubbard Hubbard.

Different kind of retread. Harbaugh was actually successful as a HC in the NFL; Reich was fired literally less than 3 months before Tepper hired him here. Tepper made the classic mistake of allowing a previous mistake to lure him into another one by trying to over-compensate. He got bit hiring a coach with basically zero NFL experience in Rhule so he wanted someone with NFL head coaching experience to replace him. What he's got now is an experienced NFL loser as a head coach. What we needed was a young up-and-coming offensive mind in the mold of Mike McDaniel; someone like Shane Steichen, Kellen Moore, etc. But we passed on both of them to bring in Frickin' Frank. fug. Just fug.

At some point you have to look at the training staff. We've had injury problems going back to the John Fox era. I get the sense training staff probably doesn't get replaced with each new coaching staff.

When coaching is this bad it's hard to tell what else is or isn't wrong.

No. She could probably do a better job.

Sadly, I am forced to agree with you on this one. Hiring Reich might be an even bigger fug up than hiring Matt Rhule when it's all said and done. I can't believe I just typed those words, but yeah. At least Rhule was an unknown quantity in the pros; Reich had already been fired once. This is why you don't hire retreads.

Watching this offense right now I honestly don't think Patrick Mahomes at QB would put us in the top half of the league in yards and/or scoring. No energy; just utterly lifeless. That's a reflection of the play caller.

We've always had terrible injury issues. There's got to be a connection to our training staff. I doubt that changes much with new coaching staffs.

Sanders isn't hurt. It's a conspiracy so Reich can play Chuba.

Yeah, Bryce Young was the problem

The only aspect of this team as consistently bad as our WR scouts is our training staff.

What happened to Andy "the tall messiah" Dalton? I thought the offense was going to light it up with Bryce on the sideline. There are problems everywhere, but none bigger than the play calling and trash scheme. Reich was a huge mistake.

Imagine if we had a coach like Mike McDaniel. He's so far ahead of the league schematically it's not even funny. The Dolphins offense just moves at will.