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Maybe a stupid question, but why do some guys visit, while others are just signed? Or do they all visit but sometimes we don't hear about it until after they sign?

Don't waste your time with that guy, he actually made a post asking what it would take to trade for Mahomes/Kelce yesterday. I thought it was like a hypothetical/for fun thread, but no... he was serious. Said the Panthers should at least make the call. Lol.

Yeah, I'd go Stroud, but Im not going to lie, AR is tantalizing. Its just hard to know how far he would have to come to become more consistent throwing the ball, or if he will ever get to that point. I do wonder if he would actually need as long to develop as people say, having that athleticism and being able to lean on running could make his transition a lot quicker while he works on the consistency as a thrower. But yeah, I think the smart thing is to go Stroud, I see a lot of Burrow in him operating from the pocket (Not super athletic, but more than enough) and he's only 21, so still tons of room to grow.

Probably one of the best options to mentor and back-up a young rookie. As much as people hate on Dalton as a franchise guy (he was limited physically etc) the guy knows how to be a pro and all the things that come with it. I consider it money well spent when we are drafting our future.

Yeah, Id agree there, I think I would be more worried about the surrounding talent, and throwing to good receivers who are open if he wasnt placing the ball so well. Even if those guys are covered, the ball would still be where it needs to be. I think the GA game showed alot in terms of handling a pass rush, that D-Line is filled with future NFL caliber players. I really feel like theres alot of similarities between both Stroud and Herbert's last college game, they showed off that they can move good enough, not Justin Fields/Murray speed, but good enough.

There's some projection there for sure, but if he's that good of a thrower of the ball, I don't him to scramble around like Justin Fields and rush for 100 yards a game, the passing game looks effortless to him. I think my biggest question mark with him is he seems laidback, which can be good, sort of worries me if he has that fire and drive. But the same stuff was said about Herbert coming out, so it might just be his personality.

Agreed, I like Young a lot, but I think Stroud's throwing ability is on another level. I sort of like how he didnt run a ton in college but clearly can do it as needed, that shows to me another level he can reach in the league.

Hey, I've posted links from this guy before, always one of my favorite channels by a guy with actual NFL QB experience. This is fresh off the presses like an hour ago.

Exactly, the cap purely exists to give owners an excuse to not get forced into spending tons of money by their fans, and to keep salaries down. It’s a perfect out for a team to be like, yeah we wanted to sign that guy but sorry, didn’t have the cap room. Convenient though that when they really want someone they always can make it work.

Love and then being compared to Kirk Cousins seems a little strange lol

That's not true, the reason teams rarely trade for franchise QBs is they become available for trade very rarely. Especially one that isn't past their prime, and is still on the younger side. Any time that has happened, there has been many suitors willing to trade multiple first rounders. If you have a true guy like that, they can cover up so many holes on your roster. Is it ideal to draft one and only spend a single first rounder? Sure, and I'm on board with that approach, but let's not act like if Burrow/Herbert/Allen became available, you would have more than half the league willing to give up any draft picks for them.

Why are you even talking about Daboll? Are you bored or something? lol

So it looks like in the next few days we should see a jump, maybe a hiring or two. I guess it all depends on how patient teams want to be with the guys still in the playoffs.

Lol yeah, he may have kept the D united together in their hatred for the offense, but he sure wasnt mending any fences between the two.

The full control thing can be a bit scary, and would give me some trepidation, but theres a big difference between giving Sean Payton full control vs Matt Rhule, but yeah, if its collaborative between Payton and Fitterer, and Payton has final say, Im fine with that. TBH, Its not like Fitterer has shown perfect judgement to get full control either.

I agree, I think people look way to long of term when they are talking head coaches, reality is most are fired if not successful by year 3, even if they have success, its super super rare for one to coach in one place for over 10 years. If we could say get 7-8 good years with Payton, thats a slam dunk hire.

I do like Wilks, but I agree with a lot of other peoples sentiments here, I feel like Wilks isn't the type of guy to turn around and re-work his staff, especially Holcomb. The way they talk about eachother, just does not feel like Wilks would be willing to let him go, and its kind of a bad start to have to tell a HC who to hire/fire on their staff right at the beginning. I could be on-board with Wilks getting the job, but I'd want to know who he plans to hire for OC/DC before singing off.

Love his channel

I find Frank Reich's arc interesting. I remember when he left Philly, and the Colts were doing better than expected, and the Eagles struggled, there were lots of comments about him being what drove the Philly Bus, I bought into that. Then Pederson got off to a good start with Lawrence in Jax, and Reich struggled and Pederson got some of his credit back. I wonder where Reich goes from here.

I've been against trading him for multiple firsts in other threads, but this is one I would seriously consider purely due to them being picks in a few couple years. There is a legitimate chance those picks could be very high as they are strapped for draft picks already, and have an aging core with Stafford.

You have to take into account what team is probably offering those two first rounders, its going to be a team thats most likely going to be picking very late in the first. Theres actually a very high chance you could spend both of those late firsts on two pass rushers and neither turns out to be as good as Burns. I'd actually argue its a higher chance you dont find a player of Burns caliber with two last first round picks.

I know people probably dont like that on 3 and 12, but honestly I cant blame the coaching staff, they are managing PJ and his tendency to throw bad picks the closer he gets to the endzone.

I think age definitely matters, how much closer to his ceiling is Hooker vs Stroud or Young? Hes literally one year younger than Josh Allen, imagine dropping Josh Allen last year into the SEC and what it would look like? Stroud and Young will be in the NFL 4 years by the time the are 25, thats alot more room for growth and development. Hooker is running a simplified offense and is old, I just dont see much upside

Lool, c'mon, there's a reason he got benched for a 6th round pick. He's super washed up. We aren't signing a FA QB, we are going to roll with what we have for the rest of the year and then draft a QB..

1. Stroud - Agree on the surrounding cast being very good and worrisome, but I've seen the ability to throw guys open and to guys who are covered, so its not like Mac Jones where every completion felt like there wasnt a defender within yards. I like that he doesn't seem to run, feels like an element to his game he can unlock, but should also hopefully help him only do it sometimes when needed and stay healthy. 2. Young - All of what you said, Size is a huge concern though. It's easier for small QBs now, but still being tall/thicker frame definitely has its benefits. 3. Levis - I really like what I saw when I watched him, big arm, plays in a pro style offense so under center won't be an issue for him if asked to do that. Accuracy seems solid and doesnt have stars around him, so thats encouraging. I can't help but worry hes being moved up boards cause of the Josh Allen effect, could be chasing a unicorn. Also, 3 years older than Stroud/Young, so developmentally thats a concern, kinda raw for someone whos 24. 4. Corral - I really liked him coming out of the draft last year, not holding anything against him with his short pre season stint with Rhule. I just think hes slightly behind my top 3 as a prospect. Love the release, seems like he would fit very well in our current scheme which makes it even more disappointing he got injured. I don't know enough/watched enough of anyone else to really gauge any order. I watched some of Hooker in the Bama game and he was impressive, but I really dont like hes going to be 25 when drafted, how close is he to his ceiling as a player?