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Careers are short in the NFL, its largely a myth that they go to the best situation, they like to say that but ultimately the money talks. If two contracts are similar, then sure the situations are the tiebreaker. If we offer Mike Evans/Higgins the most money/years, they will sign here.

I agree, I would like Canales or Eviro tbh. I think if we are going the DC route, Id prefer Eviro over Morris, Id also probably prefer MacDonald over all the defensive options, not sure how highly sought he will be.

Yeah, Im surprised we dont have anything with Slowik, maybe he told us nah Im all set. Demeco Ryans Im sure is in his ear after he declined us and his thing about 'making sure Bobby goes somewhere he can be effective'. Felt like a direct reference to the Panthers lol.

Yeah, the press conference thing is very true, people mocked Dan Campbells' and I remember Sirianni got memed for his run on thing about 'creating systems so we can be fast' or something. Even Mike McDonald people thought wouldnt work because of that conversation he had with Tua, just didnt sound like a HC, but maybe thats a good thing. Rhules press conference the media loved and we all see how that translated.

Yeah I think it was just the Dolphins. It is a bit strange no one else has interviewed Canales, seems like if you are a youngish OC with some success you get a look. Even Thomas Brown got a HC interview.

Yeah I agree, I like Canales, but hes not at risk of going elsewhere, you can do the due diligence of meeting in person with some of the higher demand guys and if you decide you like him the most, then hire him. The only ones they may need to move quicker on would be Morris/Eviro if they wanted to go that route, but I feel like most teams want to at least meet with Johnson, MacDonald, Glenn etc

Think theres any chance that happens? It just seems weird theres been no talk of any other candidates... especially after Tepper has been clearly chasing Johnson.

Yeah I dont think they are super well ran compared to others, I even put into question organizations that are considered well ran when they have one great QB, like say the Patriots, where I think most of it was attributed to one QB carrying them for awhile. The organizations like the Ravens, 49ers, Packers, Chiefs to me feel like the best run organizations, it seems like every year they are solid at worst, and no matter who's at QB they find a way to make it work and keep chugging along. Hell, the Packers are about to go from Fevre, to Rodgers, to Love, who probably isnt as good as the first two, but looks to be a guy you can build a team around and compete for a Superbowl.

Yeah the OC poaching is definitely a concern, feels like you need to be constantly bringing along new guys to replace your current OC, but at times that feels unsustainable, not everyone is going to make a good playcaller, so eventually you will probably be in a bad spot like the Eagles after losing Steichen. I guess I do view MacDonald as not only a brilliant defensive mind, but also a culture changer. I think I would put the Ravens up there with almost any organization, they seem to always be in contention, well run etc. I guess my main concern with him is how much of his success is the organization/ecosystem they have built. I feel like it's probably a lot easier to have success there, things are in control and not toxic, he probably hasnt faced half the issues he will face here in trying to change a culture, so I dont know how that will work out. I guess if hes a good leader, he would sort it out.

Yeah I like Canales as well, probably not my first choice, I'd really like to make a run at Mike MacDonald if the Ben Johnson campaign doesn't work. I have a feeling that Tepper is aiming to really go all out for him, it makes no sense how quiet we are on the second interview fronts when he's pined over him for two years. I feel like if they lose Sunday, he may be waiting in SF with a stack of cash lol.

It is weird we haven't announced a second interview for Johnson... Is there a chance of something wild like Tepper just going there and offering him a contract on the spot after Sunday?

I don't get it, what would we gain by not announcing second interviews? Would that infer we want to hire someone whos available right now?

Yeah, I'd hope they wait and really see some second interviews through, this happened with Rhule and Reich, its like they get so swept up with someone they don't wait the process out and just hire them. I think that can be good if you have shown solid judgement in the past, but thats not the case here. Id like to see second interviews with MacDonald, Slowik, Morris, Johnson (even if you have no shot) etc, and then go from there. Its even more of a no-brainer if Canales isnt in contention for other HC jobs. It seems like they cast a wide net, then when some hires start happening panic and fall in-love with a candidate and rush to hire.

I think something people miss with citing these betting odds is that the only thing the book is truly concerned with is making sure whoever gets the job is near the top of odds, they don't care if they have a wild name like Kellen Moore at the top, because these odds aren't like traditional betting odds, you cant take the "other side of the Kellen Moore bet" (i.e. Essentially laying a bet against a Kellen Moore hiring) like I have seen people mention around here. The site stands to lose exactly zero money putting him up there if he has no chance of being hired, they just collect free money by people seeing he's the favorite and putting some money on it without looking into it. I get that not everyone is familiar with these types of odds, but its just something I have seen more than a few posters mention the past week or so. That being said, I did get Canales +1800 before they took it down, I assume when it comes back up, he will be much higher up on that list.

Florio pointed out, a bit jokingly but said he does wonder about what the TB ownership group might be thinking right now regarding Canales. Would they ever think of firing Bowles in order to keep Canales (ala Dirk Koetter)? It seems unlikely but losing someone they may view in high regard in division might make people do crazy things.

I'd be fine with Johnson, MacDonald, Eviro, Slowik, Canales, Callahan etc, but I can't get on board with Raheem Morris. Just seems like such an underwhelming hire, already was a HC and failed, his biggest selling point is who he could bring with him (Didnt we just see that experiment?) I dont want a HC who can bring stars with him, I want the HC to be the main draw. His unit in LA isn't even that good, its just middle of the pack.

Isnt that sort of Samir's role currently?

If you interview coaches in person between the NFC/AFC championship and superbowl, is it common for hirings to be announced before they play the superbowl? I cant remember how it usually plays out lol

I hope we land him, but feels like such a longshot if I look at it objectively from Johnson's point of view. Washington he will get to choose his QB, new owner who hasnt made a fool of himself, already has a decent team. I suppose Tepper could offer a ton of money, but how much more would he have to pay? lol

I wonder when the first hire will happen, feels like Johnson might hold up the whole thing.

Yeah, that's what I would guess as well, unless he get's the idea that Ben is going elsewhere I guess.

Think theres any chance they end up hiring one of Canales, Eviro, Slowik, Callahan etc without waiting for a second interview with MacDonald or Ben Johnson?

I like MacDonald, Morris is an extremely underwhelming candidate imo. I don’t like retreads but a retread who wasn’t good before? No thanks. His unit in LA isn’t even that good.

Im fine with Jonhson or Slowik, although I feel like both might go elsewhere. If they do, I do wonder if Tepper has the patience to wait for McDonald, it might be another few weeks if the Ravens keep winning. I fear if he loses Slowik/Johnson he wont wait and go with someone like Raheem Morris or Frank Smith

Yeah I was high in him before this, he’s impressive. The guy just looks like a head coach from a leadership standpoint, has hopefully learned from being around Harbaugh and the Ravens organization and seems smart from a game plan standpoint.