Ricky Spanish

Counter point: Ryan Mallet

See I was coming in to post this one:

If we could get Hopkins for a 4th or 5th...

I'll say this: I was on the CJ Train before we traded up to 1 because I figured Young would be gone and we'd get a shot at CJ. Then we traded up so I've been looking at both prospects intently. From a pure QB standpoint, I like Bryce Young better. He is ahead of CJ in terms of reading defenses, directing his offense, and handling pressure. He also seems to process what's in front of him quicker than Stroud. The more tape I see, the less I care how small he is. Dude just knows how to play QB, and he's better at it right now than anyone else in the class. RIGHT NOW. Not in the future, but as things currently stand. Saying all that, I'm good with either Young or Stroud because I think Stroud has the ability to become a good NFL QB as well. But as things currently stand my rankings are: 1a - Young 1b - Stroud

Seeing a lot of back and forth and some bickering about who is better and who we should draft all over the place, mainly between Stroud and Young. Wanted to get a poll up about a month before the draft and before the pro days so we can gauge where the fanbase stands in terms of which QB they like best, and which one they want to draft. Might do a part two right before the draft to see if things have changed (A lot can change in a month). If you have strong convictions one way or the other, please provide supporting arguments.

Cam was never the sideshow like Kaep and The Golden Calf of Bristol were. His personality isn't why he hasn't been signed yet. His arm is shot.

Also OBJ's "Mistake" was a deliberate attempt to injure our player by spearing him in the head with the crown of his helmet. That's not a mistake. That was

Yes. Same reason I want Nothing but pain for Sean Payton and Gregg Williams for their bounty paying asses.

He assaulted Josh Norman on the field. He has been dead to me since 2015.

Thielen just said the main reason he even considered us was because of Reich. Amazing the affect a competent coaching staff has on things.

I agree on paying donte but disagree about TE. A rookie TE in the second round is not likely to contribute much at all. TE is hard as hell to play and rookie TEs barely ever do anything in year 1. The best rookie TE season ever was from Mike Ditka in the 60s on a shorter schedule. With the way the league is pass happy these days, you'd think some rookie TE would come in and blow it all up but that hasn't happened.

First off, I'd be perfectly fine with Hardman as an alternative cheaper version of Chark. But no, he would not become our #1 receiver. Geriatric Thielen is still a better receiver than Hardman has ever been.

Trading the below freezing temperatures for the 95 and humid training camps at Spartanburg. It's honestly a lateral move.

He is not seeing year 3 and he's not seeing all $25 million. Year 3 is most likely a year where we can dump him with limited cap hit. He is guaranteed 14 million, he will probably get ~16-18 million when all is said and done. This is not a bad contract for a #2 WR at all. Especially when we gave Robb(y/ie) Anderson 12 Million per year to do jack poo but drop passes and throw fits the past two seasons. This is perfectly fine and won't screw us in the long term.

I can Thiel it. Comin' in the air tonight.

I think he's had 5 since he's been in the pros. Not great. Why would he want to go to Dallas then?

How Frail is he? Will he bend in half if Myles Garret Sacks him? I don't care about his height at all, it's his thiccness, or the lack-thereof that concerns me and most others. He won't ALWAYS be able to diagnose pressure and sometimes guys get beat. Will he be able to handle taking the big hits he took in college but at the pro level?

Young has better pocket awareness. He feels pressure much better than Stroud. Because of that, he is Much better under pressure than Stroud, Stroud is not good under pressure: https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-draft-profile-c-j-stroud-ohio-state Stroud had one game where he played well under pressure, and even then he left some meat on the bone against Georgia. I say this liking Stroud as a prospect because there is a ton to like - the mechanics you mentioned and his pinpoint accuracy are both amazing. He looks effortless throwing the ball. BUT I think Young is the better QB prospect with size taken out of the equation.

CJ is taller and more solid. CJ has the better arm. Both are incredibly accurate. Young has better pocket presence and awareness. Young Has better improvisational skills. Young is much better under pressure. I think it comes down to do Young's innate abilities to sense and avoid pressure mean he will be able to avoid the big hits we are worried he would take? Like I've said before, I go back and forth on these two daily. I wish Young were two inches taller, then this wouldn't even be a discussion. That's why I lean towards young in general.

Yes he can. He does it all the time. I made a thread with a video detailing how good he actually is at it.

I keep hearing that CJ is exactly what Reich wants in a QB, but what adjustments would need to be made? Young is short but he can read the whole field and throw over the middle. He can extend plays and throw on the run. I don't see how he couldn't thrive in Reich, or anyone's, offense. Reich mentioned he wants a smart, quick processing QB that can play the position like a Point Guard. That's Bryce Young. But that's also CJ Stroud. I don't know if the decision is as cut and dry as everyone seems to be, and it looks like lines are being drawn in the sand about which QB everyone likes. I'm over here stuck in the middle liking them both for different reasons.

I know a lot of people are concerned about Bryce's height in terms of throwing down the middle of the field, something small QBs tend to have issues with. Bryce isn't one of them. Of course it's not just the height with him, it's the frame. Not a lot of places to add some weight on there.

That's the big Question and I honestly don't know and can't answer that. Glad I'm not making the decision. I can honestly say I'll be thrilled with either Young our Stroud for different reasons, regardless of who we pick.