Ricky Spanish

The only team you mentioned in front of us is the Falcons. Ryan has a ton left in the tank to where they don't need to think about a new QB until 2 years from now. The others, well, we have more trade leverage.

If that's the floor for a Watson, count me out. Trade up to 2 or 3 for a fraction of that cost and get a rookie.

He's still #1 on my QB wish list and I want us to trade up to take him badly.

Go for it. I'll pin it if someone else runs it.

I don't think he goes to WFT. Ron and co had no idea how to best utilize his skillset. Either that, or they never gave him the opportunities he was deserved.

Ended up having to do actual work yesterday, not fun football related work. Then I passed out early after the kids got home. OP has been updated with our two signings and release of importance.

Finally updated OP. Daylight Savings kicked my ass this year. Fell asleep at 7:30 Last night after working all day and missing opening day free agency.

Post any signings the Panthers make in here. I'll try to update the original post as we sign. Pat Elflein - 3 year - $13.5 Mil Cam Ervin - 2 years - $10 mil Cut Zach Kerr... for reasons: Signed ILB Denzel Perryman: Signed DL Morgan Fox Signed Haason Reddick Signed Rashaan Melvin - CB Some Dude named Darius Clark, RB

Post any Free Agent signings from around the league in this thread.

Closest comparison from recent years was probably Doug Baldwin of Seattle.

Just so everyone is clear, the move makes sense to clear cap this year where literally every team is on a budget. I'm more mad that the contracts are so crap that they need to be restructured so soon after they were signed. I'm retroactively pissed.

People shat on the ranking Simms gave Mond, but mond makes full field reads, has a cannon, and can place the ball into tight windows. Consistency is his issue. Can he be coached up to be consistent? I dunno. But Mond has waaaaay more raw talent than Jones does.

They are as of a few years ago. Gamechanger.

What a FANTASTIC contract those were that they needed to be restructured 1 year after the player signed them. Great job Hurney.

To be fair, we didn't have one of those for close to a decade and when we did, he was underwhelming.

Not true. If Mac is truly butthole then we could turn around and draft a good QB the next season much like the cardinals did recently. The rookie pay scale makes it much easier to move on from bad QB's drafted in the first round.

Reading up on jones and watching more and more tape of him, it seems like he has a lot of the nuances of the QB position down (looking off defenders, maneuvering in the pocket, throwing with anticipation) but his physical skillset is limited compared to the other draft picks available (pudgy, unathletic, slow, average arm strength). The dude seems more cerebral than anything. His skillset honestly transitions well to the NFL, however his limited physical skills hinder his potential due to the direction the NFL is trending with strong armed athletic QBs. I'm getting less and less upset at the idea of drafting him at 8, but he is still no where near the top of my wishlist for QBs.

Ultimately we don't know until draft day how this will all shake out. Every year there are surprises so I am looking forward to it.

Honestly, I have never been a fan of our beddazled sparkly silver helmets. Matte black, white, or even the blue would look better with our uniforms. Also we aren't a classic team. The teams you mentioned all had tons of success many many years ago and their brand and uniform style is iconic/immediately related to past successes of their franchises. We don't have that kind of clout. Times change, styles change, and it wouldn't hurt the team to as well. New Unis, or at least new helmets would update the brand and would look pretty cool. I'm all for it. New owner, new regime, let's clean things up and move forward.

Counter argument: We haven't won a super bowl with the old ones. This could change EVERYTHING

How many people actually under contract those years?

What if we take Mac and he ends up being good?

Oh I do too. Don't get me wrong. But right now, if we don't trade up to take one of Lawrence/Wilson and we stay put at 8, will be legitimately happy if we draft Jones, Fields, Lance, or even Mond because it means we aren't content with the status quo and we're trying to improve the most important position on the team. It's not about being right, it's about wanting the guy you take to improve your team.