Ricky Spanish

That's the other variable in the whole thing - This coaching staff. The best hope for Matt Corral's future is that we win this season and make the playoffs. This would secure Rhule's job for next season, but we would most likely re-sign baker and keep Corral waiting in the wings for god knows how long. However if the team tanks, Rhule is potentially gone and every coach that believed in him along with him. We would most likely look to move on from Baker and move up in the draft (pending final position) in order to take a new franchise QB. This would mean the new staff would have "their" guy that will have played football more recently than Corral, even if it was college, and with a first round investment in the kid they wouldn't start Corral over him. There is really no clear cut path to him being a successful starting QB in the league any longer now that he got injured. The dominoes fell in all the wrong ways for him.

If they let him go, he's probably not very good my dudes. The fact he will push for a starting spot on their line is genuinely a good thing for us.

Honestly, I've been keeping pretty quiet on the whole thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if Corral is done. Like, his chances of becoming anything as a QB in the NFL are next to 0 now. He came in with tools that translate well but his brain needed to be rewired through reps and practice. He was already coming in slightly rusty due to the high ankle sprain at the end of the season, and then when he got to TC he received next to no reps. Then he got thrown out into the preseason, looked like he hadn't played any actual football in 6+ months, and broke his foot. Now he won't be able to actually practice what he is learning in the classroom and getting up to NFL speed. He is on ice for the entire year. The one thing he needed was practice and he can't get it. I would not be surprised to see him not even make it to the end of his rookie deal anymore.

I think they will IR Sam for a few weeks freeing up the spot for a kicker, then drop PJ and bring him to the practice squad once Sam is healthy.

Which direction is the helmet pointed @SCP? This could determine the team's fortune this season.

Did you forget the part where Jordan played substantially for us last season?

Exactly. He's a beefier, slower Curtis Samuel.

Beefier, slower Curtis Samuel

For a 6th and 7th rounder? It's all good.

For real though this just screams Rhule is in love with "Versatility"

Dude might not have it unfortunately. I was a big supporter of his in the draft process but it's not a good sign that he couldn't make it.

I was a fan too, been following him this offseason. Apparently their third stringer last year came in much improved over the offseason, so much so he was pushing Minshew in viability as backup. One or both are apparently being shopped as a backup for other teams. Strong got the Corral treatment in terms of reps because of it. Wouldn't be surprised if he lands on their practice squad.

Ah, so everyone is getting cut today then.

Dude, Luvu looked like a man possessed out there. Really interested to see how the LB core looks once Shaq gets back.

Honestly Lovett has shown more than Chubba has.

for the second year in a row. Jake verity just got claimed by the Jags, dammit.

Unless you have short arms apparently.

But also, some things are just unlikely

If your team doesn't show improvement in team record from year 1 to 2, especially with no winning record and no playoffs, then generally speaking historically that coach does not end up as a what some would consider a good coach.

Walsh and Knoll did their thing with no salary cap and a different free agency so it took time to build a team back in the day. The game has changed significantly with adjust FA rules, Salary caps, and overall rule changes. Belichick is the true outlier due to the fact he built a dynasty in the Salary Cap era (and the fact he won the super bowl within two years of being the HC of the Pats). Like was also stated previously, all three you listed had NFL pedigrees and experience coaching at the pro level and gained experience under great coaches themselves. Rhule was an assistant OL Coach for one season in the NFL and then went to college. His team also got worse from year 1 to year 2. I want to be wrong. I really do. But I have some serious doubts that Matt Rhule is a good coach my guy.

I'll bite. All those circumstances you listed? Those were self inflicted by Rhule. He chose to get rid of Cam and roll with Teddy, then get rid of Teddy and roll with Darnold. He put the offensive line together by going out and making sure we got "versatile" guys in erving and elflein on DAY ONE of FA last year. He forcefed CMC right after a season where he had over 400 touches. He put together the inexperienced NFL staff that failed the past two seasons. There are PLENTY of other head coaching candidates that could have come in and done better than what Rhule has shown thus far, because they wouldn't have done as many dumb things as Rhule has done.

Nick Sirianni - Playoffs year one Cowboys - playoffs year two under McCarthy Mike Vrabel - Playoffs in year 2 in TN Andy Reid took the Chiefs to the postseason his first year after they finishing with a 2-14 record in 2012 Sean McDermott took the bills to the playoffs in his first year after 18 years of the bills missing the postseason Frank Reich took his team to the playoffs in his first year as HC after not being able to even pick his own staff in 2018 and the Colts were 4-12 in 2017 Sean McVay took the rams to the playoffs year one of his tenure when the rams hadn't made it to the postseason since 2004. Kevin Stefanski took the Browns to the playoffs after a drought of 17 years Matt Nagy (sucks) still took the bears to the playoffs his first year as HC with a 12-4 record after a year of 5-11 Brandon Staley in the playoff hunt year 1 of his tenure as HC of the chargers Bruce Arians - Playoffs in year two Riverboat Ron - Playoffs year one in the dumpster fire that is DC Arthur Goddamn Smith has won more games in his first year with a poo roster and no offensive line than Matt fuging Rhule has in either of his first two seasons.

apparently Reid Sinnett came into camp much improved from last season and the team has been mulling over the idea of trading away either him or Minshew to gain some assets in the draft. Because Sinnett has looked so good, Strong just hasn't gotten any opportunities and is looking like the odd man out.