Ricky Spanish

I just cannot in any way shape or form get excited for anything this team does right now. The best I can do is neutral, as opposed to "fug everything about this". Can't get disappointed with neutral. Can only be impressed.

It was said numerous times across numerous reports that Fitterer ran a collective/"collaborative" Environment and Dan was his right hand man, so to me at least, that says Dan had strong input in how the roster was constructed the past few years.

Or, you know, Harbaugh didn't want to talk to Tepper in the first place because our roster is a dumpster fire. I get we don't like Tepper, but Harbaugh might be Will Smith's Dadding us right now.

Yeah I'm gonna go even further and say that's a bannable offense. I know it's hard for some of you guys just don't be dicks about the injuries.

I can only hope we can bump this thread in three years and laugh at how wrong we all were. Hope he is a good GM, not holding my breath.

So in your opinion they SHOULD waste more assets on another QB when they already have one under a rookie contract (That already cost us a ton of assets to acquire) as well as a proven vet starter who has a history of being solid and no first round pick this year? That's some Fitterer roster building logic.

I can't write Bryce off yet. I know tons of others have because they're reactionary, think they know better and want to be right, but I can't. Gotta give him next year to prove if he has it or not. The situation was screwed from the jump and literally no one looked good in our offense not named Adam Thielen. Bryce is the QB so he is the punching bag, but he doesn't deserve all the crap he's getting from the fan base because he was far from the only thing wrong with us this season. If he sucks next year, then he sucks next year, we reassess in the 2025 draft. No reason to keep sending good money after bad year over year with QBs. Ride it out with Bryce and try and fill out the roster to surround whatever QB we end up using going forward, but do it competently this time around.

I still am. They were still competitive with a ton of injuries top to bottom and managed to put up some good games with a UDFA italian american stereotype. They were hampered by talent, much like us, but they still managed to string multiple competent looking outings together throughout the season, something we couldn't do.

Well he helped put together the worst team in franchise history. No one comes out smelling like roses after that.

At this point the best thing for the team is to go with a former OC as our HC to help with Bryce's/whoever we draft in 2025's development. My personal opinion is you pair young QBs with offensive minded HC's to help get them acclimated to the NFL. QB is the most important position on the team, and it is very bad for a QB's development to have them switching coordinators year over year. Having a HC with an offensive pedigree helps alleviate that issue, especially if they can call plays as well. Once the young QB has been in the league a few years and shown some growth/success, you can re-evaluate the HC position and evaluate the rest of the team as a whole. Are things going well? Cool, keep pushing forward. Are we underachieving because the defense is tanking? Bring in a HC with a defensive pedigree to help right the ship and backfill the OC who runs a scheme the QB has had success with/is familiar with. TL;DR Offensive HC candidates are better for teams with young, unestablished QBs, Defensive HC candidates are better for teams with an established Vet QB.

Good for him, dude deserved it.

It was a collaborative effort, but it was the majority Reich's offense. You can tell due to The SEVERE lack of pre-snap motion being a Reich thing and archaic in the modern NFL. The Rams use motion at one of the highest rates in the NFL, and that's where Brown came from. Motion, PA, and RPO rates all went up after Reich left. That isn't a coincidence. Square peg, round hole trying to merge a mid 2000's offense built to be run by a statue in the mold of Peyton Manning or Philip Rivers with Shanahan style concepts built around distributing the ball quickly to playmakers to get YAC easily, all with a line built for the power run game and unable to grasp the complex blocking scheme of Reich's offense and receivers who can't get separation. Failure top to bottom.

I think Stroud would have looked better than Young here because Stroud fit Reich's offense better than Young did. However, it probably would have just been him and Adam Thielen that looked good, becuase the line still would have looked like poo and the RBs still would have looked like poo. This really is more of an indictment on Reich and his inability to adjust scheme to better fit his personnel, not just his rookie QB, also Fitterer for thinking any of the players we had on roster would fit Reich's style of play. Dildos top to bottom.

The Bryce trade didn't ruin us because we were a bad team to begin with. How do you kill that which is already dead?

Either way, I don't follow your logic. Watson used to be a proven asset but took two years off and quit on his old team. The trade was terrible based on the results thus far, and people thought it was an overpay even when it happened. Also, Broncos gave up proven and speculative assets for Wilson, then extended him, and are now cutting him before the extension even kicks in. That is infinitely worse than what we did. The dead money hit we took to trade both DJ and CMC (Which is a separate also bad trade in it's own right) is a fraction of the guaranteed money both the Browns and the Broncos have invested in the QBs they traded for. But seriously, ask any other fanbase in the league about where these trades rank in terms of awfulness. 10/10 will say both Watson and Wilson were worse based on assets given up, and cap space allotted to whoever you trade for is an asset. Most will say it's too early to throw the towel in on Bryce to tell with him, but even if he does suck, it isn't in the same ballpark as the other two, and the other two may not even be in the same ballpark as Herschel Walker. If Bryce busts, we draft a replacement in 2025 and our cap will be healthy. The Broncos and Browns are in cap purgatory and may have to let good talent walk in order to maintain a competitive roster all without having a franchise QB with minimal assets to fill in a good team around whatever QB they end up with.

She didn't say she received this info through texts from her sources so it's obviously conjecture.

Did we give up multiple future first round picks and or players, and then immediately pay Bryce 250 million guaranteed or extend him for 130+million while still under contract? Then nah, it's nowhere near as bad as the Browns and Broncos. We have our first in 2025 and we aren't going to be hamstrung by Bryce's contract for years to come. We payed a lot for him in terms of draft capital and a talented receiver, but the trade doesn't prevent us from signing guys/retaining talent (If we ever get any) because of the contract resulting from the trade. It was a dumbass deal to include Moore in it, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it was overall a good trade. It just pales in comparison to other recent ones.

Even if Bryce busts, I don't even know if it's top 10 worst trades of all time, especially when you have the Watson and Wilson trades just within the past few years. That's not even talking about the trey lance trade, which the 49ers gave up more for even less output for him but fell ass backwards into a pro bowl QB with the last pick of the draft last year. Then there's Herschel walker which is also infinitely worse. Don't get me wrong, the trade is a bust unless Bryce turns into a consistent pro bowl QB, but it's not even in the conversation for worst all time. Just worst in franchise history.

We hire the right GM and the right HC this cycle and make it to the playoffs in 3 years like Detroit did with MCDC. Just to be a contrarian to everyone else in this place.

I'm conflicted. On one hand, I understand the desire to look back on older threads to see a snapshot of where we were as a fanbase and what we all wanted at the time. But at the same time, the reason people keep doing it is to perpetuate their own misery and it does nothing to change who we ended up hiring, drafting, or how the team ended up doing this season. Feels like people are doing it just to bitch and moan and stomp their feet for not getting their way. I'm not locking this, but at this point you guys should just be Texans fans.

Mike Singletary as well.

And Sean McVay and Bill Belichick. I honestly don't care as long as we win.

Not relevant but I have seen that clown emoji followed by Tepper's name so many times on this board I now call the clown emoji the Tepper emoji in my head.