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True. That article was from last year.

There is a ton of survivorship bias in this discussion. It’s impossible to know who could have been amazing if they went to a different org. I know the panthers were just about to draft Russel Wilson to backup Cam but Seattle was just ahead of them in the draft. What would have happened in that scenario? Wilson would have gotten zero playing time and there is no way Rivera would have ever considered promoting him ahead of Cam. Wilson would probably not have developed at all. Impossible to know, but the data is clear. Rookies fail far less when they go to good teams.

Great analysis from last year on how important a good team is to a QBs development. https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nfl/2021/8/30/22647741/nfl-quarterbacks-nature-nurture-trevor-lawrence-zach-wilson-trey-lance-justin-fields Summary: “good” teams hit on quarterbacks almost two out of three times (64 percent), while “bad” teams hit on quarterbacks just one out of three times (32 percent). 2018: Josh Allen went to the Bills, who had made the playoffs the previous season. 2018: Lamar Jackson went to a Ravens team that had just gone 9-7. 2017: Patrick Mahomes went to a Chiefs team that had won 12 games with Alex Smith. 2017: Deshaun Watson went to the Texans, who had won their division two years in a row. 2016: Dak Prescott took over a Cowboys team with perhaps the league’s best roster (and definitelythe league’s best offensive line). 2012: Russell Wilson joined the Seahawks, who had one of the greatest defenses of all time. 2012: Andrew Luck landed on a Colts team that was awful in 2011 but made the playoffs with Manning in 2010. The last quarterback who was the primary force in turning around a bad situation early in their career was Cam Newton, who did so with the Panthers in 2011. Aside from him, just about every quarterback who’s been widely considered a “good” pick from the past 10 years went to a team that was building on some kind of preexisting success. There have been more than 50 quarterbacks drafted in the top 10 in the past 30 years. Only three have led their first teams to a Super Bowl win: Patrick Mahomes, and Peyton and Eli Manning.

You should’ve seen McAdoo.

Yeah, and that is against Liberty level competition.

Unlike the other two, Corral actually has some elite traits. Yes, he had 14 ints 2 years ago, but he got that down to 4-5 last year. He is small, and I know nothing about his ability to process quickly, leadership, etc but I like his toolset better than the other two. Willis is an obvious bust. He’s not ready to play, and we all know the low success rates of redshirting QBs to ‘develop’ them.

Dare to dream.

Draft a QB or suck for one next year.

Corral is the guy if the non-physical attributes are there. Is he a competitor? Is he intelligent? If so, I want him.

Ok, he’s this years Sam Darnold.

Pickett is this years Kyle Trask.

I want this.

The colts got him for a 3rd because of his huge contract.

Man, they’ve achieved the off season equivalent of 28-3.

I wonder what they’ll say about Rhule once he’s gone.

Dont know why you were pooped on so much. In this league, a team is only as good as it’s QB.

Always blowing leads.

ATL has to go crawling back to Ryan….lol.

$230 mil fully guaranteed. Yeah, that’s a no from me boss.

You think these guys are getting laid? More like smells like despair and hand lotion.

Oh it’s easy. Hire Rhule and McAdoo and trade for Sam Darnold.

Yep. This is the best path forward. Trading for a mid tier QB just to win 6-7 games is pointless. Suck and draft high.

We NEED to suck that bad.