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Lol he has....I think IDK, has to be Hooker since the other guy hasn't even been here a week. Wildcat looking mighty fine if Dalton can't even make it through 1 game
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Since his rookie year the offense has gotten worse and the D has improved. Dude is going to be off his rookie deal before they give him what they are giving their D. Classic example of why to pick an offensive HC over deffensive HC. They are set to have a top 5 D and not a winning record like the last 2 years of 10 wins each. Freaking hilarious
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So is Hooker activated or are they just rolling with Dalton and plan B is wildcating thr 2 RBs?
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Yeah well I was agaisnt Hurney coming back and then helping hire Rhule but it happened anyways. Tepper has made it so bad and it's still ongoing currently.
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I agree but also the Fox/Rivera mediocrity was feast or famine. Arizona bearly hits mediocrity at best and usually worse. Letting Rhule lead the teardown was such a multiplier of pain that it can't be understated.
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Darnold is making 13 this year and 20 more next. It won't show until next year. Darnold has done a lot of good but his biggest issue is he chokes when it's put on his shoulders. Looks good when it's not. Now bring in a rookie to develop and it gets more positive IMO. Journeyman and fine at the right price...which is not set up well in 26 for them. Murray is all physicals and little else. They proved you can't win with him on a rookie deal but he is 'their' guy so it never mattered IMO. Tua was overhyped and couldn't carry poo but did look great when playing the worst teams. Again, Jones has never had a good non-contract year. Physically he has the tools and mentally he has matured but Im not seeing special or top teir. I still think Baker and the Bucs lead that list and is the only ones doing it well in the pay to value conversation. He is making what Darnold signed with more guarantees. That is the sweet spot for value to cost while Darnold isn't, even if they delayed the bill by a year. Murray is making about 50% than those 2 and around 60% more than Jones which is completely insane to me. Tua's contract is even worse than Murray's. I never had an issue with a loaner QB tries here, after Teddy. It was they way they did it and the staff doing it that was my biggest issues. Don't expect a savior, just get a contributor and put them is a spot to succeed.
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The supply and demand reality is a big part of the issue but so are teams willingness to overpay even with the obvious issues it raises. They make their profit win or loss and it shows. Arizona hasn't been a contender for most of Murray's career but they keep him around because of supply & demand AND the fact that the owner wins regardless so why not hide behind s&d while keeping the norm going? No reason to play it the hard way, let a guy walk to be overpaid and then find a cast off that can be put in an overall better situation. Too much gamble when the house wins anyways.
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A guy like Jones at average pay is going to not work out IMO. The 20 million difference to spend elsewhere is too large of a hurdle when the QB plays good but not carry the team good. They are in the sweet spot currently at cost to value with him. Darnold is pretty much the same. Good in a limited role but lean on him and he will fold. Tua didn't beat good teams when it had to be on his back to be the difference, and that was true when his team was stacked. All of Murray's talent has resulted in 1 winning season for them and 1 wildcard loss. The NFL has an overpaying mediocre QB issue. At the right price it's not an issue but can be a positive. It inevitably leads to a worse roster which becomes a poo show. NY gave up their RB because they paid Jones and proved that. The first is most likely leading to the second. Baker is bucking that trend but he was always the best of any of that group, even if his time here was pretty much the worst setup possible.
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Dalton will look much older, Dave will throw it too much and the D will get reality checked. Bills 30 Panthers 13
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It's the first and the second is the inevitable with thr first being met. Dude has 2 good years and both in contract years too.
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I'll take Jones on a prove it deal but start talking average QB pay and it's probably going to end closer to how it did in NY. They can spend that extra 20 million elsewhere. And he did play well on his prove it year there too, that's how he got his extension he couldn't live up to. Some guys are better in that range before their own pay strangles what gives them their best chance at succeeding. His coaching looks good too but I would still be mighty careful with the extension they are probably looking at for him.
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About 6 months late to figure that out
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A good playcaller would just sub and not miss a beat. Both RB are good enough to do this so with so just keep running and subbing. Start the hot hand from last week and split the carries throughout. They are pretty similar in quality and ability with pretty minor differences. It's completely on the playcaller since they are so interchangeable. Give them both 20 touches and lots of playaction with Dalton.
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Bryce Young - High Ankle Sprain, out minimum 1 week
Waldo replied to UNCrules2187's topic in Carolina Panthers
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True but he is also on an obvious decline too so that margin is shrinking too. I don't know how much he has left or how to evaluate it all if the decline is as much as I think it is with Dalton. When a gunslinger gets to the end of the road it's all Ints and no TDs.
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Panthers have the 3rd leading rusher in NFL
Waldo replied to Pantherxtreme's topic in Carolina Panthers
Just face it, this team doesn't understand what 'earned a starting job' is or how to handle it. Now feelings is obviously what they focus on in personnel decisions. -
It's so easy until it's time to pay the QB coming off a rookie deal. I have said the entire time that Purdy wasn't worth paying if not on a big discount. The only guys who sign on a discount have something to prove. Could be a Fields or a Baker. Half the posters here still thing Darnold is the same as Baker lol. So it's no surprise teams fug that up so often when you include the desire to not take a step back even at a cost that's likely going to hurt worse in the future.
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Playing other bad teams helps a lot but true. Does it really surprise you the coach sticking with Bryce with zero competition in year 3 would go away from the hot hand RB? Some RBs need rhythm and others seem ready to go when called. I think it comes back to playcalling and coaching which is just meh here
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He isn't going to keep running even though that is what this team needs to function on both sides.
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The easy schedule is over so are the gifted wins. I'm just glad I can watch some NFL football and not think it's college BS sunday. There will be at least 1 good team on the field after so many trash games of bottom teir football.
