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I have many doubts with the way it was handled and not just from Cam's side. I also don't dislike Cam enough to wish that upon him coming back here right now.

It's not dying or definitive until he is traded, cut, arrested or whatever. Just say his name 3 times and there is a hot take about it. I have no idea what will happen but it's not going away. Hopefully it just gets quieter after the trade deadline. Until then, the morons will dance and sing and make a lot of noise getting clicks.

A 17 game long "Darnold" sandwich.

At worst a lateral move and at best more entertaining. I have no idea why Cam would want to come back here right now. We are stuck

We passed on a franchise LT this last draft, dude started at LT his rookie year too. We already missed on a guy that could have been another Gross...took a 25 year old that needs serious strength training and more time. So much failure in so many places, it's just a comedy of errors this year. I can't really belive in any of it until they can string together more positives than negatives.

Rhule's NFL resume with the Panthers.

Lol he was a part of why they were awful, he isn't a good QB and never has been. Pure physical talent and no brain.

Sounds great to me. Time to sell anyone that is not the future.

Sam is who he always has been. Anything other than that is just denial brought on by fan-hood trauma of watching your team fail. The only thing that masked Sam being Sam even a little is CMC being ran into the ground.

Chicken or egg? It doesn't matter at this point. Darnold has been Carr'ed or Darnold was always a busted brain on a talented body. It just doesn't matter at this point. Nothing happening here wasn't happening with Darnold in NJ. It's over. At this point in his career it's time to start talking about if he is good enough to be a backup. We wouldn't have been pursuing Watson if the team thought there was a desirable future with Sam.

https://theathletic.com/1520923/2020/01/08/flying-to-waco-sitting-in-an-suv-eating-meatballs-and-talking-football-how-the-panthers-got-their-man/ Hurney was there and a big part of hiring Rhule. That's on Yeppet not Rhule.

It's all just crazy. Add in the extension and 5th year option and it's kind of comical.

Ahem. 1 less excuse. And truly sorry it's PFF.

If only he would play as good as he used too with Sam.... I blame Gase for all of this, even though he is playing worse this year.

Your missing the point, most picks are wasted anyways on guys who don't make it in the Not For Long league. QB is the most valuable and outrageously expensive position. If you have the staff to pull it off, you can end up with better draft picks to waste. Jimmy G didn't win a SB, neither did Cap and the team is trying desperately to upgrade there again by spending 3 1st on Lance. Pats missed a lot but they got Cassel in the 7th and packaged him to KC. Jimmy G netted a higher 2nd and was part of dealing with Brady's contract. What I said was 'Always depends on the QBs. Having the choice is big if there is a QB worth it, many are not.'

Look at some of the guys still here hired by him and what they do... That was Teppers biggest mistake, not firing Hurney with Ron and now his stink still lingers.

It wasn't a good contract but Hurney was GM and in the room with Tepper and Rhule so this is what you get.

I thought the Pats traded back into the late first for Jimmy G but he was drafted late in the 2nd, my mistake. Rogers' wasn't a wasted pick, they had an old Favre and took a chance on a guy falling father than he should have. I also never said they should take one in the first every year, another posted stated a quote but I remember it as drafting a QB every year not every year in the first. What's the difference between an OG or LS in the 6th that got IRed and a QB that is a long shot. But yeah, if you have a shot at a Rodgers and can flip that then why not? Again, not top 10 picks, Rodgers went 24th. The best reason I can think of is they usually don't last past the pathetic teams picking high every year. The 2nd and after? Developing a QB as a backup and for value seems like a great hustle if you have the staff to draft and coach them. What SB has the 49ers won since the 90's? They have lost 2 in the last 10 years. They lost with Kapp and Jimmy G, one they drafted in the 2nd and the other they traded a 2nd for, so they spent 3 first to draft one this year. Steelers last 1st round QB is still their QB from 2004. Cowboys haven't been to a SB since '95 with that 1st pick in round 1. It's only a waste of resources if your team is bad at player evaluation and development, which is usually bad teams that waste resources anyways. Same difference.

No because I do other stuff as I watch the games and haven't been in person this year or last. Much more fun multitasking. I wish the football was good enough to take all of my attention but it's been years since that was a thing.

Well run teams do well run things. GB nailed it, hate it all you want but it was smart and kept them relevant. The Pats traded a couple of those guys for way more than the cost of drafting them. That's very positive. The Colts had Manning and a terrible D, they always put it on Manning to out score the other team. Ohh and the team that drafted the QBs in 1st and 2nd has the most rings. Hate it all you want, it can work on a well run team. I just hate we are not a well run team.

If you have a chance at a franchise QB, you take it. The hard part is knowing which is a franchise QB and which is a Darnold. The year we got Cam some wanted Gabbert but his film was really bad, not college bad but NFL bad. Those 2 shouldn't have even been in the same conversation. You can always sit them and play a dud for a year. No roster is perfect, it not Madden. Some are just ran a lot better and more consistent than others. Even if you have one, and there is one there you might should take him, like Rodgers. It's a great problem to have. Drafted guys bust because the scouting was bad or the team didn't put them in a good spot. Maybe a freak injury. It's hard to quantify because there are so many examples going everywhich way.

Always depends on the QBs. Having the choice is big if there is a QB worth it, many are not.

Somebody/s went after Teddy and Sam and were happy with that, that is a huge problem. Like Ron going with Gabbert over Cam bad. Now we might not have the capital to get one this offseason along with line help.