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Are the Panthers playing college ball next year? The one guy with the experience we desperately need and it's the guy who got caught tanking. What a pooshow.

No idea what a pack of desperate people will do when the pressure is on. I would think it's Cam regardless, it was all Brady right? lol, because that's what Tepper wants because that gets people to show up. OMG, if they trot Sam out again it's going to be hilarious. I kind of hope they do that and then maybe Tepper can find better people to waste picks and years. Just start Cam and see if the new playcaller can figure out how that whole thing works, the last guy couldn't.

I assume it was decided earlier and someone decided to hide their shame...If not, JFC we are in for worse people. The possibilities on that side are frightening. Either way, I expect at least a mild pooshow moving forward. And that includes the easiest game they could ask for coming out of a bye.

Meh, it was never a great hire and his positives are out weighed by the negatives IMO. Some here just want to blame it on all Rhule but he had a hand in this mess. The fact Rhule liked him and wanted him here is the kiss of death. His evaluation skills are terrible and that is his forte (exceprt CB of course, that is golden lol).

Would the Seachickens be willing to poach Fritts for a 2nd? That would be my wish if that ownership finally decided to show up and do something.

Couldn't even call an entire game for the full offense. I have seen where the OC was really under the HC who was calling the game but that is some BS right there. You got a bad OC that can't call pass plays and this genius that has no idea how the rest of the offense works and certainly not big picture. WTF.

Well I meant as a coach that actually called a game and not whatever the fug that is. No hate on you sir, that is just some weird BS. That's like saying a QB has some playcalling experience from using audibles. I guess it's technically true while being misleading.

Ok, zero meaningful playcalling. Was the OC getting a drink or using the bathroom?

The wasted draft capital is just another exapmle of why not to trust anyone in that room at the time. I got to be honest, I have such a low opinion of this crew now that Fields could have been a wasted pick for us. These guys could have ruined him in a year here. Not because it would have been a bad pick, just because the coaching, especially on the offense, has been soooooo bad this year.

You are 100% right but Tepper is here for better or worse. He kept Hurney and his 'experience' has led us to a spot where we have another crappy GM and an even worse HC than Rivera, certainly less experienced when hired. All I can hope from Tepper is that this giant failure has taught him something or this team is fugged for a long time. But absolutely fug Tepper for being a complete idiot and relying on that moron to hire other morons who then hired more morons.

Yall arguing over who's dookie flavored lollipop is the best? Just tale the cheaper option. Hell, Rhule stays we are drafting a dud because that's what he likes. If he is gone then it's whoever our Rhule quality GM picks, which will be a CB. We should have 100% traded for that guy over Darnold but that's really easy to say due to how bad he is and how awful that trade was. Either way, we would still be looking for a QB this offseason and probably next given the level of competence with most of this crew.

We just saw who was next after firing the OC, we going to promote that guy again if we fire Rhule? The fact we haven't started cleaning thr front office up tells me all I need to know about whatever 2.0 we got headed our way next year. Like a chain of overpromoted dog crap. Fug you Hurney, this abomination is your unfortunately lasting parting gift.

After a year and a half as an NFL OC, he could easily step into a college OC. Maybe not an all world one but good enough for college level. I have no fugging idea how we hired him with zero OC and playcalling experience. Just another example to add to the reasons why Rhule never made it to his 3rd year in a couple of games. Why hire a college coach if they haven't actually done the job before at an easier level? Just a big ol' horseshit pie.

This is what doubling down looks like? Keep it up Rhule, can't wait for you to be fired.

No. It would just be wasting another year.

Huge positive for us. We need it. Looks like Riddicks new contract.

With out a doubt but his ego would be feeling it.

I guess we dont have an easy route but the idea Rhule could still get fired for poor performance and have all the good options off the table is very fitting considering how Cam's release was handled.

We won't know 100% where the responsibilities of so many failures fall but it can be best summed up by Tepper hiring bad hires, who made so many bad decisions while coaching poorly and players performing at a low level on the field. Much more bad than good. There is no one personnel move that fixes the fact this crew is just bad at NFL football and that falls on Tepper for hiring these people.

Productive QB and POS human.

We need to part with some wasted cap first. I haven't looked at the numbers but we will be dumping some dead weight to get that 30 million higher. No idea who but depending on who is here and in charge will set that pace. No Armstred, his injury history is just a repeat of the last 2 guys we brought in. Great value in the 3rd but he isn't healthy enough to rely on any more. Getting just adequate help would be such an improvement, that and healthy.

Those were them. Thanks Scot!

We had a couple of of big (by then's standards lol) disappointments. We drafted Gross and Kalil which is top shelf. Then we had some reaches on OGs and also wasted players like Mathis which played poorly here due to scheme and misuse but flourished elsewhere. If I remember correctly, it was just Fox having no idea how offenses work when he put personnel together with scheme. Otah was a giant fat guy who played well for one year, which was a miracle given his health and weight. I swear there was more but I just can't remember them all. A giant FA implosion. Either way, the 2 big hits made it look like the land of dreams compared to now.

Which would again fall on Tepper for being an tool. I can see that happening.