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I'm starting to hope he is the scapegoat this year. He isn't a good GM. It's looking like more of the same. It's like 1 good thing per 2 or 3 bad things.

I disagree. It doesn't matter because Tepper is all in on terrible or underqualified people. He is a magnet for failures.

Not surprising. They should have never leaned on him anyways. Morgan was here last year and should have known that.

I agree but Rhule and Fritterer were what happens when the people retooling are terrible at talent evaluation and team building, neither should have been hired. It's still a 2 year fix in the modern NFL if you have good people...which I don't think we have yet. That's the pivot point, good people doing the work. That's also been the problem here. The roster quality is just the effect of terrible hiring. Change that and it would turn around in a small window.

It's how they got to where they are at. And it's the biggest reason they will stay there until something changes on that front in a big way.

It's dramatic because the NFL is built to allow that comeback. It's not the 70's pre free agency. We just haven't had the people to be able to do much good. That is much worse than the roster level IMO because it's how we got here and why we will stay here if it doesn't change. Tampa was last in the division in 2018 and won a SB in 2021. They were second by a game in 2020 and that weird season. That's not even looking outside of the NFCS. In 2 years a team can dramatically turn it around if they do good things and not the crap this team has been doing for years.

It's 2 years in the modern NFL. That's taking the NFCS and making the playoffs as a likely to be bounced team. And again they didn't try to tear it down but just have done everything poorly. 2 years of great management would be the 2 year turnaround. Your being dramatic. It's likely years because Tepper keeps hiring poorly and managing them poorly not because it can't be turned around that quickly. Wilks built culture on a bad team in half a season so again it's is even attainable for that guy who is a dinosaur in the modern NFL.

The better the drafting the quicker the turn around. This team could be good in 2 years with good drafting, especially given the likely picking order starting this offseason. We are talent devoid from poor drafting and poor team building from people that should never have been working here but IF that ever changes then it's just a 2 year process as long as we don't trade away our future again like last year. It's not like any other NFCS team is a powerhouse so it's an attainable goal in theory. It's was failed retool after retool since 2019 with bad trades along with bad drafting and plenty of bad pro-personnel along the way so it wasn't an intentional teardown, it was incompetence run wild. Tepper hires poorly and I'm not certain that doesn't include this current crew yet. How long at the bottom will be determined by who is in charge which is how they got here. Now that could take him another 10 years or maybe never but the cause was always with who he hired and how badly they have done their jobs and not because they chose a teardown because none of them did choose a rebuild or tear down, those idiots were trying to retool the entire time. It's really amazing how badly they all fugged this team and how much money they all made in doing so.

People got way to excited about his win. The talk of years more of his service was telling. Dalton is also one of those 'we need an upgrade of talent' too. Could it be worse? Yes. But he was a backup in the end of his career so asking him to shoulder wins week in and out is just a bad plan. Lean on the run game, let him cook around that and try to get Evero to call a better game on the other side with the RBs carrying the clock.

He folds under pressure and he only plays well when he out talents the D while looking scared when the other team plays up to him. I remain unimpressed for a guy with that much physical talent. He should have looked like a football god yesterday against our D but he did not. Can't get much easier than the Ds you guys have faced the last two games. It's a poo show here. Good luck to yall.

That's awesome! I loved seeing the kids excited and getting into the quality stuff so it's great to hear you getting kids to love the game! Yeah it's where he shines, practice and garbage time when there are no blitzes or prevent D giving him a chance to throw past the LOS. His ceiling is so low it's frustrating to watch. I'm hoping it's to drum up a trade or something but I know they will roll him out there again this year even knowing he doesn't have what it takes to be a quality backup right now let alone a top 32 QB in the NFL.

Both apparently. The early picks probably have more fingers on the scales but the later guys aren't hitting either. Could be worse but it's not good and that needs to change. If they can't have better drafts then they need to clean house.

You definitely picked the better game to watch lol. I did not detect it so my apologies. I miss watching my nephew play flag ball. Now he is in HS and it's all basketball. Watching kids work on their plays with the wrist bands was so fun. Good luck in your next game!

Not where I want to be but better than last year for sure. Injuries, lack of talent and bad coaching is tough even with rock bottom expectations.

DC is known for being pass first and pass happy. It's a bad approach given the match up and just flat out how the team is built. He allowed them to get ahead and make his best offensive option meaningless. Let the running game open up the passing and not the other way around. I agree about the learning curve. Failing is one thing but not adapting is much worse, especially for a guy who was really green like DC. Evero I don't know. The CBs look solid except Hill but the safety play has been worse with Scott in there. I'm watching some breakdowns today because I know I missed stuff.

Did you watch it? The D was playing soft with the QB change and it still looked like the same issues. Most of his career stats come when the D is playing soft in garbage time. That and the GB game where they looked like they had our D yesterday.

100%

Not mad but disappointed in the coaching. DC should be calling a run first offense and he keeps doing what he wants vs what he should. Evero's D is sloppy. Yes it should be lacking in talent given the situation but that doesn't excuse how those guys play. I'm fine with losing if they can be competitive but yesterday they were not.

Lack of talent, injuries and poor coaching. If the fundamentals were solid then we could talk about building talent but I think it looks like Evero was more hype than reality.

They better keep playing him in garbage time on away games. That level of play is getting booed at home. The Dalton bump is over and if they still think that's the future they all deserve to get booed.

The Panthers are the worst team in the NFL over the last few years. It's now officially 'at least we are not the Panthers' in the NFL.

Weren't these the same safeties people here were touting as a position of strength? Scott and Fuller have looked terrible.

Going to be interesting to see if they fold or come out swinging. This team has lots of problems but I'm not seeing great coaching either. Sloppy is not a talent or injury issue. Moore's having his revenge game too. LOL to that damn trade

Damn that looked bad