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People here now? Obviously. New people coming in? Probably but also not necessarily with the same expectations or usage, especially when they weren't involved in the deal.

Let's hope so. I am also hoping Watson brings the happy ending to it all and implodes when he hits the field so those contracts go 0-2 big time.

I thought the cap doesn't exist? lol

What if he gets injured? It works both ways in that kind of hypothetical. He will get paid regardless and waiting to end this season is a great idea. We still have the 5th year option so he isn't walking anywhere for more than another year and there is a franchise tag behind that, so there is two safety nets with Burns moving forward to get this right. The cap angle is just smearing around the fact he is going to be making a lot more on the books in someway if he inks a new deal over the 5th year option value. We signed that kind of deal and that's why we are paying CMC 18 million (?) next year to play elsewhere and dealing with a stupid cap problem from a contract that we did too soon to hide issues elsewhere (this has those feels to me). We don't need more money this year, and I would really like to involve the next crew on a deal this size even if it's just a blessing.

We have no franchise QB and already are creating the cap issues he ran away from in NO without being close to a SB caliber team. He isn't coming here regardless of how you view him.

19th in yards allowed and 17th in scoring. Burns has talent and we have peices to build around but this isn't as great a D as some like to think. Last year it was yards allowed and this year it's Burns sacks. I can see us doing a 49ers type 4-3 but I still think Burns is the weakside DE in that scheme. I would love to see him as a true edge around an traditional 3-4 front.

True but after passing on the trade I'm expecting a CMC type deal than a Moore type deal. We will see.

Timing matters. It's a dumb move. Give the new HC his place at the table to discus the inevitable and make a positive easy step in the offseason. This has desperation stink all over it but I know he will take the money a couple of months early.

True but it's a huge red flag when a pack of guys working to have jobs next year get together and do a mega deal when they could just wait 2 months.

5th year option. Bring in a new HC and crew and then do a huge deal. Zero need right now in the midst of a losing and embarising season. Same stuff was said about CMC and we were desperate to get rid of him.

Zero reasons to make any deals right now. This would have the CMC deal vibes if true.

Great. This is a QB you want another team picking before us.

I don't want to see us get embarrassed on that level. Hard pass. I hope the Bucs can squeeze out another one and saves us from that nightmare. I hope we are coach shopping that week. That is exciting. Watching this team another week team really isn't.

Win lose, IDGAF this year. I just want it to be over so we can see if we are getting a HC that can make us exciting and relevant regardless of the QB. That is how bad we are, tie ourselves to something good or hope for a year like this where the winner of the division has a losing record or pick in the teens that year. We already did ridiculously bad so mediocre or something worth watching is likely incoming. That is where I am putting the hope I am able to scrape together.

Lol. It hurts because it's true. All of it.

I'm already a Panthers fan, that is low enough. Sorry, had to do it for a laugh.

It's people's right to huff glue but it doesn't make it a good idea. Same people who said Baker was taking us to the playoffs because he did 1 year in Cleveland. Same people who said Rhule would turn it around in year three. Same people that are now saying that Wilks has earned the HC job. Desperation makes people lower their standards so far they lose all perspective. It's the meme where the clown is putting on makeup except they only can see the first and eventually the last picture.

You saying hope with Darnold is as dumb as believing there was ever a tank. There was never any hope for this year once we retained Rhule and there won't be next year if Tepper is dumb enough to keep Wilks.

Because if you look at it in context then it just looks like more dookie. Some nice throws with lots of dump offs. Plenty of time to throw and still a chump. Whatever, time will do it's thing and anyone with half a brain knows where this is going. Some people just like to be disappointed.

People talking about Darnold after a weak game against another bottom dweller like he is now the future beyond this year. Under 60%, under 170 yards and under 20 attempts.

Nope. I wanted to beat them and him. He was a large piece of the wanting to curb stomp them that we finally saw in the 2015 playoffs.

Congrats to Burns. The trade was still a no brainer.