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Tepper hired Rhule. Hurney gave his blessing. Then he let Rhule run the place like it was a school program...even though Hurney knew that is not what the NFL is about. It is not uncommon for new HCs with to have old hands pushed on them for a year or 2. They were all bad hires done poorly. Also the dynamics of Tepper and Rhule are interesting. Rhule wasn't equipped to handle the situation and Tepper had no idea what he was doing. I think they both thought that was how the NFL worked lol. That's not impulsiveness but incompetence. Rhule needed scapegoats to keep his show going. It was Brady, the QBs and anyone else he could throw at Tepepr's feet. That isn't just about Tepper and it's not as simple as I think your making it out to be.

Talk about dodging a bullet. That also would have likely been 2 years of Clausen like Young got here. It's an easy top 5 all time bad trade for sure. Watson is up there too.

Bad hiring way over impatience for me. It's like with Brady. He should have been an assistant to an old hand for a year or 2. That's bad hiring. You can't wait for 3 or 4 years for a guy to hit what he should hit at the end of year 1. That's just bad hiring. Do we know it was DC and do we know it didn't include something like 'I need him to reset and sit behind a pro for a while'? I love Young being sat but I don’t know how all that actually happened. He needs to show improvement or I would be happy to see him gone. He wasn't a good hire. He was a Tepper special hire for sure. So was Reich and Rhule. I need to see him adapt the rest of the year. Get away from what he wants to do and do what he needs to do. He hasn't done those things the last 2 weeks and that's not a good sign to me.

Fields looks like the kind of QB that will figure it out late if ever. He doesn't need to be starting but sitting for a while and doing a reset. Baker had his here, rock bottom and then sat. He isn't a good option this year or next year as a starter IMO. If he was a year or 2 along his career trajectory and a free agent who would sign a prove it deal? That's his sweet spot. Those guys need more time and need to be away from their rookie contract and drafted expectations. And how will he like a high draft pick at QB? He isn't going to be a franchise QB and not all of those guys handle it as well as A Smith did in the many instances where his team upgraded over him.

It also good that Smith and Baker like DC. Still I just found that funny. My issue is with his history and what he brings on game day it might be 5 years instead of 2. That was what DC is and a long wait to see if another project developes is a hard sell given the recent history here. That was the rub with him as the hire for me. He is really raw and patience is difficult to scrape together without seeing improvement sooner than later. It is the not for long leauge. Hiring the right guy at the wrong time would be a classic Tepper move.

Wilson in his 7th year when he became the QB coach? Geno Smith himself? Baker for 1 year who also had 3700 yards his rookie year? That lots of great QBs? I guess Hasselback was there when he become the offensive quality control coach but given he was the USC assistant strength coach the year before I assume he was doing a lot of on the job learning. Geno is funny.

No thanks. Just play Dalton into retirement and let the WRs get better reps the rest of the year.

RIP TMJ. Good luck in your next profession.

Does anyone want to see the team go run first forever or just this year? I was assuming that is just damage control for the many errors that put the team where it is and not a desired long term strategy. Run heavy if you stink, have a rookie or just match up well that way. Sunday was 2 of those things was always my take. A young QB on a rookie deal without a mega trade is a giant start. It's a 5 year cheap window to build the hell out of the team like using a cheat code. Then shave away to afford the QB when you see how to do it and still win. Freaking KC did it with cheap WRs lol. Anyways, if you miss try again. Washington is this year's winner.

I called Clausen a bust after watching his school tape too. It was ass yet a lot couldn't see how weak his arm was at ND. It was bad. Hurney tried to trade up into the first but couldn't find a partner thankfully. That was the draft they spent their 1st on E Brown in the 2nd the year before lol. The trade up to #1 was a massive dumb idea. A couple of spots is expensive enough but throwing in a legit WR and those picks was too much. If we had Stroud we would be wasting 2 or 3 of his rookie deal years. 1? Ok 2 or 3 or 4 is just a freaking waste of it all. That's when you want to build the team up so when you have to shave some talent off due to that massive QB contract you have options and ideas of where to best do that. Can't do that when you already spent a big chunk of those picks.

A Edwards. 3rd round QB convert to WR Hurney special. Clausen in the 2nd lol.

He isn't benched so I would say not even in his own draft class but he is also really bad.

Dang yup 3rd. I get and agree with that it's just such a sweet setup for a rookie to fall into when Corbett goes down again. Maybe next year.

They have a 4th round rookie making the calls on the D. That was always a loaded self serving argument, one that I hope is dead now. Anyone should look good between that much expensive talent. And I think guys will keep that up. They can get help from either side or just be the help to either side. It's not like they will find themselves on an island in that situation.

I hope anyone playing center looks decent between those OGs. Great setup for a rookie to step into also.

Evero signed a 3 year deal in 2023 so he is still here another year on paper? He also has had some personnel choices/input with 2 different offensive coaches. He isn't the key culprit there but he had some fingers in the pie they baked. He was always overhyped in Denver, he didn't build it and the unit took a step back when he took over. 3/8 to 14/7. Payton also said no thanks, as an offensive HC he had some good Ds so that carries some weight. Meh, plenty of other stuff to talk about. Not sure why a professional protecting their career is surprising. He tried to leave and they blocked it. The entire 'the unit is so bad and hurt there is no way to evaluate Evero' echoes of last year's big BS take. What a damn mess.

Last year was a new low in brutality from every angle. At least the infighting was entertaining I guess. This year there is hope that it's almost over (the all time low) and just getting back to normal bad is refreshing...which is a whole bag I'm not unpacking.

IDK what to expect with Young from the team moving forward but until he is gone or we know the real plan is I'm not getting my hopes up yet. Stan's minds are not worth wondering about IMO. That went out the window when they starting stanning.

I guess you missed the point where that was the beginning of the 4th quarter and not the 1st. Which is WTF I have been talking about the entire time. 13 carries in the first 3 quarters is dog poo.

They abandoned the run when Dalton threw a pick when they were running down the damn field while trailing by 8. That series was 5 runs to 2 passes with 1 pick. It was the pass that put the game out of reach, the running was working. 5 of his 18 carries came on that one drive in the 4th quarter with the game still very in reach. The points given up didn't change the effectiveness of the running or disprove it was the right choice, especially against a team ranked 25/27 against the run. Not playing against your opponent weakness is dumb. Not leaning on your strengths is dumb.

Even DC said he was going to be a run first team this year. WTF are you talking about? The team is 25th in rushing attempts and 22nd in rush yards. It shouldn't be a discussion but here we are. Go look at the teams running it 30+ times a game, even KC is in there.

LOL that will save them. I hate that they have been a better team recently. Are they going to cut Reddick if he can't find a trade? That's interesting but no thanks to a trade.

DC was a pass first OC last year and he is a pass first HC calling plays. 18 carries is too light. He should have more than that. He also ran 28 routes with 6 targets. That is completely backwards IMO. That would also cut back on Daltons 38 attempts which would be a good thing with an elderly QB with Young as a backup. Also only getting 16 carries because of how terrible Young is only highlights the play calling issues because that should have been way up then, more than now with Dalton under center. It's nothing new with DC and was an issue with him last year. Stop acting like it's bitching to just bitch when this is earned. Just run the damn ball and stop pretending Dalton is Brady, he isn't and never has been. It was 28-20 going into the 4th so there was zero reason to abandon the run that was working better than the passing game before that point. He also calls a lot of passes on 1st down instead of taking the easy run yards which ends up in too many 3 and outs. Go look at the play by play calls. It's not impressive. Come on to you. If it's earned it's earned. This is earned criticism. As for Sanders, I don't even know why he is still on the active team. Might as well activate Boone and see what he has. Him being around doesn't make them look any better but just adds justification for more criticism.

And Burns isn't worth paying and CMC is injured badly now. The issue isn't who we lost it's that they can't aquire talent anymore. Be sick of that because nothing will change for the better until that changes dramatically.