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Yes but he is still amazingly bad at any price. June 1st cuts would have freed up some cap and a roster space he is wasting.

I wish because that woukd actually make sense. For any crew to come in and be like 'this is the year Thomas breaks out' seems to be a death flag for the people in charge and yet he just keeps staying around.

It's literally where he shines. No rush in his face, no one to throw over and no defenders to break up those flat passes. If the team was smart they would tone it down and let him just prove it but they are already hyping him back up. Vagas knows what's up but the rest is hype from the media machine that knows it's time to sell sunshine and that the time for thunderclouds come later. SSDY

Or he had to take it extra easy this offseason after carrying his WR room to a championship last year

How in the fug is Thomas still on the team? That guy is a litmus test for if the current staff will fail. Did they keep Thomas? Ohh well maybe next year...

Hey when you get a ring you are allowed to let it go...Well times that by 3.

Smith had 3 ST TDs and only 20 targets as a rookie WR. I still remember one play he went deep, beat his coverage and just couldn't come down with it. He was so pissed and they stopped going to him much after that. Yeah he flashed that year and also showed he needed to keep working. It's a bad comparison. Go watch a video of both's rookie years and tell me they are the same or close...And if Bryce was drafted in the 3rd also then we wouldn't be having this conversation because we would all be talking up the #1 QB pick this year.

He has $9.49 million to smile about and soften that blow of failure. No one likes to fail but ending up with that bank account number sure doesn't look like complete failure in any worse case scenario for him. And laughing is awesome, especially at your enemies. This is still football right? I don't know about it being confirmed but it's believable. Stinks to be on the receiving end but thems the breaks.

A chunk of those 60+ sacks were on him. Fans here were pissed when PFF didn't blame Ickey for sacks Young created by running so far back out of protection or holding the ball too long. And average time to throw even with all of those blown plays from the OGs, that means on other plays he had more time and still couldn't do anything with it. He should have gone in the early 3rd like Wilson. That was always his value but a bunch of college fans and media experts giving their laziest take allowed him to be way overhyped. Nice guy and he is durable for his size, that's all he has going for him in the NFL.

It's both. He didn't see well in the shotgun either. The only positive this year IMO is that they will be picking top 5 again. I just don't think there is a good enough NFL offensive scheme you can run with Bryce. He has too many limitations and if they didn't blow so much to trade up for him they wouldn't be forcing it so hard this year again.

Bryce absolutely has issues seeing the field. He isn't fast enough to pull a Murray or Wilson and create space for more vision. Improved footwork isn't fixing any of that. The new OGs may help with protection but I'm not seeing how it helps his vision challenges...that is if they find a decent center.

It's school ball. People way over compare the 2 but any NFL team would roll the kids on any school team hard. Those teams have a couple at best ready to be rookies in the NFL and the other are grown men who are professionals who are an entire roster of those couple of guys with years or experience at that level. It's like asking why were they so good in HS and failed in college? Because one is ridiculously easy compared to the other.

All the stuff that drags his game down won't show up until preseason games. Until then it's just a build up to that let down. He can't see enough of the field and the NFL isn't forgiving to those that can't adjust.

Dak doesn't win in the postseason on stacked teams. 2-5 postseason and never won a game outside of the wildcard round. He puts up great numbers but that's it if you are looking to do more than peak into the playoffs. Let someone else overpay him now, play him for 2 or 3 years and if Carolina is still looking for QBs then revisit him when he cut from the deal he is trying to sign now. That's Dak's sweetspot IMO. Dak is going to go look like Derrick Carr somewhere soon on a contract like he is looking for. 9-8 and already looking to develop a project rookie while Atlanta pulled the trigger Cousins' first year lol. Nailed it. Sign a re-tread and keep drafting until you hit. A re-tread is fine as long as they don't pretend he is more than that like the 2 times before. The funny thing to me is that it would still look like this years offense in that scenario at worst and TB and Atlanta will be duking it out this year for the NFCS crown with that setup.

That was my guess but I'm on the coast and haven't seen anything about it here. I'm surprised they pushed that through given the times but not at all that there unhappy locals in that deal

Weird how little coverage there is of this. What's the deal that got this going because I haven't heard of any being made between the Panthers and the local government?

I have not been a fan of any of them or their processes. As for who I want we all know it doesn't matter and at this point I am resigned to what is Tepper quality at the end of the day because that has absolutely been consistent. Tillis should be great but he came here so it could be a Beineimy situation I guess.

More of the same to me as Tepper's other guys just a different flavor.

They were rookies the same year which IMO is so much worse than old, coming off a difficult injury and still not a postseason winner regardless of regular season wins with a rookie QB.

Cousins can win the NFCS but he has won 1 playoff game ever. He isn't there for a SB but to take an easy division. They are betting Penix can be more which is also what pisses Cousins off about that situation, it's the same thing he was running from in Minny. SF already did this to Jimmy G with 2 young QBs, they also handled it way better as far as I have heard, so it's not that new in Atlanata...even if they did their best at creating internal friction.

It's honestly too high. Looking at some of the lower options I think they would win more games with some of those guys in a run first O.

It doesn't look like they will make 5 wins and will be picking top 5 again. 2 to 4 seems like their zone

That was Tua and he wins enough in the regular season to make much harder than what is going on I Pantherland. Also Tepper is weird. Rhule got a 3rd year and he absolutely did bad enough to get fired after 2. He just hired the assistant to a 2 win team and then that guys friend who didn't get another HC interview. Tepper is impatient but also unpredictable in a bad way.

I saw his school tape and he peaked there. He was a poor NFL prospect but he was good enough to win there. Not throwing at the combine kept him going in the first vs throwing and going in the 3rd which is where he should have gone. I can't remember a more overhyped prospect ever. It was embarrassing how bad and lazy his draft breakdowns were. He does have a great agent tho