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Dude is a debt collector. Fug them both. I asked why anyone cared about this guy at that time and all I got back was he was a local to some people so rah rah. Ok cool. I agree about the JR part but I have zero reasons to care about Nevaro anymore than Tepper. His kid plays tennis and dad was an old coach. Cool. It's the NFL, they don't sell to great people and there is only 1 team run in the way I would be happy to see which the NFL will never allow again. IMO there was never a good option in that sale.

IDK about that mattering at all in the Panthers sale. This team and it's location affected the interested buying parties. Maybe Tepper would have bought DC but then they could have had another Tepper ready to buy us for 3.85 billion less than the DC sale, whoever took his place in Pitt like he did for Haslam. Neither the Denver (2 billion more) or DC group moved on the Panther's sale. Plus JR was ready to sale before he was pushed out, that was his plan with the NFL which is mandatory to have a clear ownership plan in place, so it wasn't a shock that he was selling. There is only 1 team that can escape the good old boys club unfortunately. Maybe everyone knew it was gifted to Tepper from the get go or maybe the bigger groups just saw it as not nearly as desirable as Denver or DC. Maybe it's a bit of both.

The biggest difference is they spent so much on Bryce that they have to roll with him 1 more year, it's non-optional from every angle. Tell me that if he was a 2nd or 3rd round pick they wouldn't have used this years 1st on a QB?

There were 2 real options that wanted to buy and neither were great options. They went with Haslam 2.0 vs the local scum bag. Hell the Diddlier tried to put a group together to buy it and that would have been fun considering his issues. The Panthers fans were always doomed. The best hope now is that Nicole sales when David kicks it.

LoL. You set yourself up to be used with that mentality. He didn't quit. He found a path to the playoffs and a much better situation. That's called winning. You probably can't see it with the boot on your face.

It's a huge problem but this isn't the way to do more than pat a billionaire on the back. Would they be doing this if there wasn't a tax break from it? I know my guess. So 3 million to a great cause while getting a tax break with a photo op and they get 650 million from the city so their pockets can grow? How about they keep the 3 million and the area spends that 650 to raise people out of poverty? The uber rich only like giving when they get more than they give, the exceptions would be people like Bezos' and Gates' exes. Also the rules on non-profits are strick but about how much actually ends up in the hands that the organizations were set up for is not. March of dimes was $.10 for every dollar donated last time I looked. Please look up charities before giving. They are not all the same, no idea about this one.

It was a six year hard tether and it was for $87.5 million....I think. Link

Trickle down economics is a sham. It was always about capturing as much wealth as possible while fooling those giving it to you. There is infrastructure that could benefit the city in these kinds of deals IMO but it's not what he is looking for.

So much saltyness. Dude worked over a terrible owner, GM and HC while going to a contender in a better city (IMO if you are young and rich, plus he went to school in CA). I don't blame anyone for not enjoying working with those people, they sure weren't any fun to watch. He would be wasted if he was still here. Hell they wasted everything they traded him for already. Be salty about turning a HoFer worth of value into a bunch of scrubs because all they could do was run him into the ground to save the jobs. I learned from when Peppers left here, he earned the right to go elsewhere and do his thing which I didn't believe at that time but I saw how it unfolded in the long run. I'm at peace with CMC and if you hate him just remember he still can't get a ring even being the stud that he is.

Yup, it is but they fall in love with their guy when they should treat it as a business. Hell we did it with Delhomme because there was a point where it was obvious and they wouldn't bring in anyone that was close to a threat. That game was rough for Miami but they also didn't win a game against a team with a winning record when they met them. They just look amazing against trash and mediocre teams. Still showing up to that game in that weather, or even the normal bad weather, that unprepared was just dumb. I know Miami fans and that's a thing that's been known since the Shula times.

Smith was tradable and his teams kept drafting QBs around him. I'm thinking that is more Tua purgatory.

Ready to play are starters. Think Bradbury vs Whorley. They have just been too uber focused on projects IMO and their biggest 'ready to play' guy is now a giant project. Projects can be great but this team has been chasing them heavily since Tepper showed up and I'm betting there is a corelation between that and the lack of overall talent on the roster.

It leaves the other half of the field vulnerable and if you can't attack that enoufh then it's going to be an uphill battle. It's like playing in the red zone all the time. It's the entire primise of bend but don't break was get them to a short field you have a chance at defending.

Or drafting projects vs solid ready to play guys when you lack enough tallent to field a competitive team or build the up projects...

It all sounds like more ways to clog up an already stacked box. If Young can't hit deeper more often then it's just more ways to get to 4th down.

I hope I live to see a Panther's team that drafts well someday. It sure does not look close. Hitting on one guy per draft got us to mediocre so the idea of 2 or 3 a draft would be fun.

I'll give it a try and set them to zero. Thank you!

I can't sell mine for the $250 transfer fee and they have been listed more than a year. It's my last year anyways, I wouldn't sign an extension to keep trying to sale. I'm walking if I can't sell them. I won't be going to a game anyways this year. They don't resale for much and that wasn't something that made me happy unless it was a game or 2 a year. It's time for me to walk. The team can take it and resale it or whatever. I'm way past recouping anything and just ready to spend that money someplace my family would enjoy.

Yup, so much money and time. I'll take my kid to a game this year in Tampa to see some friends down there but I really have no incentive to make another Panther game in Charlotte any time soon. I have zero faith on a watchable product materialize soon. It's so much easier to do something else and then just take a vacation on what I would have blown on tickets that I usually can't even resale at 50% cost. The Panther game day experience, regardless of the team quality, is archaic. The last game I went to was just a crap experience with great food before the game at a local joint. I really miss being excited to watch a Panther's game and I have no idea when I will be willing to buy tickets to one again.

IDK, people love a trainwreck. If it's as bad as it's been, yes in a new fun way, then people would watch that. It would be terrible for the NFL IMO. Just selling negatives is terrible for them if they are trying to hype up the season. At least the Bears have hope, even if the cameras and a rookie QB is a giant distraction when trying to get that guy NFL ready. Even with the first pick last year there wasn't much interest in the team nationally beyond the pick itself.

I have no idea how anyone, especially the Panther fans, would defend their practice facilities. If they are not the worst then they are definitely close. Thielen is right and if you don't like that then take it up with management. 30 years and it's still isn't at an NFL level. Even GB has one and they are owned by the fans.

You don't have to wonder it really has. The bad product only adds to it but once I got a great TV that 3+ hour drive got even less worth it. The only real positive the Panther's game day experience can have going for it IMO is if it's a good team. JR'S last few years felt like he was stripping it all down to sale and Tepper hasn't done anything to really improve it. Tampa last year was infuriating to me because they throw a great game day experience and that game was super lame outside of the rain. Watching Tampa do it better was depressing AF

I'm still trying. Had a few interested buyers but they always back out and that's at the $250 transaction cost. Looks like I will just let them go if no one wants them. It was sad but by now it's freaking pathetic how much they cost vs how much no one wants them.

But he was his own man and they wanted their guy to be the hero. Can't fault him longterm for going with the QB over a RB but that SB showed he would chose his way to lose vs doing what it takes to win another one.

Pete ain't been right since he leaned on Wilosn and lost a SB. Great coach but still