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Waldo

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  1. My take was don't try and overcompensate for a bad pick/situation. Two wrongs don't make a right. That would have been a perfect time to bring in a Moore type receiver and say 'Cam you are a beast but you need to work on your throwing mechanics'. Unfortunately by the time all of that happened it was games away from disaster and too many wasted years.
  2. But we can't judge until they hit the field. /s Not all but yeah there is some judgement. The Not For Long league loves the long build while ignoring the current season. It will be entertaining. And the bit about the HC not caring that the WR is limited was reminiscent of DG talking about KB/DF and how they just needed a big guy for those high balls.
  3. The irony of your take on a football forum is hilarious. I comprehend exactly what you are.
  4. Yes because nothing happens in the offseason. What a masterful take. Thankfully all the football stuff happens from September to February. Wait didn't they just have something recently? Even an Injury and some contract drama? Nope, couldn't be. There is nothing happening at this time of year according to you.
  5. Look into that industry. And you also don't have to pick up the phone. 7 years and most debt is uncolectable as long as you never talk to the collectors. The collectors have so many illegal practices that an entire sub category of lawyers specialize is sueing debt collectors. It's a lot. To make billions in that industry makes it a lock. It's not an emotional statement. In the end the money doesn't care and neither does he. There are people that make a lot, millions upon millions, and then there are billionaires. If they didn't win the big loto chances are to make it to that level takes a certain kind of personality. The what they did to get there does matter. All of this is also documented if you want to take thr time to Google it. The credit industry is interesting and is very predatory.
  6. It just sounds like you understand how that industry works on the surface and very little else. To become a billionaire in that field absolutley makes him a scumbag. It's why the NFL didn't like him. The litigious nature of their industry from their common practices is know if you care to learn about it. The NFL new and it was enough for them to force it to Tepper even though he had a higher bid I believe.
  7. It's just more of the same. It's been talked about and noted for months around here. That take can't be a surprise at this point.
  8. Dealing with the now and building a foundation to build a future upon would have been a great sign of change and a serious attempt to turn this thing around. Those guys that were all fired were also pitching the future. Rhule's 7 year plan and last year's platoff team while taking a still weak NFCS were just more of the same. You already answered you own question. 2 win teams don't usually develop projects well, stable and well run teams do. That is not close to the Panthers at this time. The future doesn't matter if it looks like the recent past for them.
  9. Why wouldn't we if we were right the last 2 years? It's no longer a mystery even if you add in the element of unknown. Quacks like a duck, walks like a duck then it's a duck. Betting against the current Panthers is just good odds unfortunately. I get wanting it not to be true and fanning how you want but it's hard to go against the history they have built in the last 6 years. Tepper hires poorly while dragging his last mistakes into the new mix. The mix of personnel to scheme is yet again questionable. The draft was not as different as it needed to be from the recent drafts. The list is right there, we are all just talking what we see until they prove it. IMO this try isn't much better than the last, at least the HC will at least try which is nice. It's not the easy option, it's the obvious option.
  10. Yeah the trade forced an ugly year 2 we are seeing unfold but next year is a completey different situation.
  11. That was Hurney not Fritters and his one player away from winning strategy which was TB.
  12. It's more like undercooked chicken being served. 'Just send it back, it'll be fine once they finish cooking it'. If they gave you that first and you eat the second then it's on you as much as them when you get sick or at the best massively disappointed. They obviously can't freaking cook. Just enjoy being sick to disapointed, there is nothing you can do about it anyways. That is the logic you are seeing applied to Young.
  13. It's a prove it year for him. Let him prove it and pay accordingly if it's worth paying. He is making 10 mil? That's too much for a guy with 1 1000 yard season.
  14. You notice that after 2007 those numbers jump up a bit? Maybe 2007 was just the J Russel effect but what comes after is the modern NFL even though it started to change in what 2004? with the CB stuff it wasn't full blown until then. It's more like comparing 90s numbers than to the modern stuff.
  15. None of them look like starting material to me this year, certainly not rookie coming off an injury and needing work. Also Morgan was the pro-personnel guy when they signed Sanders so it's reasonable to doubt that his salary is the only reason he is still around with a June 6th designation they could have used to open up cap (2 miil +) for another RB. Chuba being a #2 or on a contract year isn't really an issue until next year when they see how he does this year and what he wants moving forward. These guys should be making moves to keep their jobs next year, not another future fest that's been going on since Rhule got here with his 7 year plan. It was a luxury and I'll just refer to the many post above to not repeat myself.
  16. Or you are making assumptions that something meaningful has changed? The criticism was earned and with how they drafted there is likely more lined up.
  17. Disagree all you want. It was absolutely a luxury pick, as explained, and if those people can't see that then they have much bigger issues rolling there way when the season starts. This team has been over drafting these kinds of players since Dave showed up and this crew is no exception. Young, Mingo, Johnson and Zavala were all over drafted (factually in hindsight) and this crop looks to be carrying on that tradition. The fact this GM was the assistant and worked very closely with the last makes it a dotted line of logic. We will find out soon but it's so obvious it hurts.
  18. Can't be impactful if he can't get on the field. Even if he did he would be # 3 this year anyways. They needed to be focusing on the now and worry about the future if they want to keep their jobs, it's a luxury no one in that house can afford except the owners. The last HC didn't make it 1 season and no one has lasted more than 3 since Tepper showed up doing very similar stuff. But please go on like the people criticizing this isn't based in recent facts. Also comparing this guy to CMC is delusive AF. CMC could block and catch as a healthy (played 16 and started 10) rookie. I get being tired of the criticism and anger that is touching every angle of the organization at this point but it's as surprising as this guy not being ready yet...which is the base of the criticism given the RB room he isn't ready to help to improve much right now is he?
  19. With how this offseason unfolded it looks like it will be the next people in charge's problem.
  20. The only way he should have gone in the 1st is because it was such a weak RB class and not because he woukd have been such a great 1st round pick. Game changing 3 down back? It was a luxury pick and is more about next year then someone who could have helped this year at one of many positions of need. This entire draft showed more poor values and ignored concerns so SSDD. Yes he has upside but again it's a RB. After trading a beast for a 2nd and change it makes it look even more hilarious of a miss swing on a team desperate to add talent on the field and not in the imaginations of the people in charge. Also when was the last time the Panthers drafted a project that lived up to their ceiling on this team? And the first 3 picks in this draft were projects which would be exciting on a playoff team but not a 2 win team IMO.
  21. The fact is they should never have drafted Brooks. It was a luxury pick and deserves every bit of the crap fans are giving it. Not a surprise and not a good pick for the team. Injured project RB is still injured so big shock about a guy who wasn't ready to play much if healthy anyways, he needs work at this level. Just wait until the OG at center goes down again. Then we can talk about all the centers or OGs (since apparently that's an easy switch to make) we could have had playing at that point. 'But a rookie is too risky at center for Bryce but an injured project RB in the 2nd makes so much sense for the future.' An investment in the future? How about an investment in this season between the millions they spent on OGs with the current hole in between them.
  22. Look at stories from his rookie year. You are giving him too much credit and yes that situation stunk. He would have been fine for a swing at that time but in hindsight if he ever gets decent it will be more like Baker's situation at best then 'he could have shined here vs there'. I'm also not sure the Panther's situation is any better than the Bears, big picture, for him in those scenarios. He is like a less talented Murray IMO. Physically talented but not mentally what you hope for with all of that talent. It's just not a hill to die on IMO and if the Panthers drafted him I have a hard time not seeing it to leading the same general outcome.
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