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But their not winning and he keeps doing it. That's not grasping but notating another reason it's so bad here. WTF does Tepper have to input into the process with his vast football knowledge? It's typical on big moves or high draft picks to get the owner's blessing but not a Monday morning proctologist meeting. Frank was very open about those. Please quit making excuses for people doing the worst in the NFL if it's earned and this one is easily earned. Update meeting? Go watch Frank talk about those meetings and come back saying it's till an update meeting.

HAHAHAHA. Fug Payton but that's hilarious. There isn't anybody he took a shot at that didn't deserve it so it's funny. I freaking hate being the worst team in the league.

They have a rookie QB who is better than Bryce but still a long ways away from running up the score. Felt like they took their foot off the gas early to me because of that. I have no idea WTF Horn is talking about.

The fact they are still having monday morning meetings is what DC deserves for signing up for this clown show. My only question is who gets fired first because someone in that dumpster will be scapegoated soon.

It's time to flush the toilet at the end of the season. DC is 8 games in and is nowhere near ready to be a HC. He isn't even a great OC, below average really. WTF is the point of dragging this into another year? In a couple more years he will finally be ready for the job he already has. Brady needed to go somewhere good and learn more. He did. He wasn't ready when he left here so keeping those guys doesn't mean they will ripen in a situation that is steeped in failure, it means they need to go somewhere good and work their way back up. That's DC to me. I wouldn't even want him as an OC at this point.

It's the only reason to watch this game. Hopefully Andy gets well soon and we can just limp through the season but today is going to be a trainwreck. A good D and a team that's willing to run the ball is a bad catchup.

Clowney for free if they take Thomas and Sanders too.

It was always the obvious path once Young proved who he was in this retool. Johnson isn't signing anything here so ship him off for whatever they can get and call it what it is, the best option in a bad situation. His attitude was a know quantity before he got here so it's no real surprise, he isn't giving a discount and he doesn't want to play for a team without a QB since he has been in WR hell for the last 3 years. It's a win-win.

He does stack up yards in garbage time. But with the Broncos running well they should eat up most of that time and shrink his usual stat padding. I say under 100 given that situation. Their D will feast on him all day so it could be an implosion day with nowhere to hid the fact of what he is in the NFL.

They could have...before the OG deals and any other free agent moves. Just trade him or cut him as a june 1st designation and then start building the team for 2024.

Yeah Morgan was in the room when they drafted him last year so good luck with that. If you think him sticking around didn't involve a plan to build up Bryce than you're crazy. They should have fired Morgan too and just hired sane people without the Young mistake hanging over them before they even began...

It was bad but to hit that 3 second average shows not evwrytime...even if it was bad when it epically failed.

And yet their average time to throw was almost 3 seconds even with all those blown plays... This year it was just obvious with better OG play and none of the blown plays.

A pick the first series and then the same old mess. I just don't think he can play to a backup level in the NFL. He doesn't have the tools to play outside of the pocket like he wants to and he is incapable of playing inside of a pocket. Denver should just play tight and blitz the hell out of him.

This crew hasn't shown they have figured out who the core should be that's here now. I just hope the talk of keeping Chubba was all PR speak because him and Johnson are about the only 2 guys with value, both of those 2 should be walking at worst so why not. Those are not going to be core guys and this team needs to eat a bunch of bad contracts or they will be showing up with next with mostly the same mistakes.

Cam Ward as it stands now that's still too early. Pass rusher in free agency but man do I hope they don't buy the most expensive guy. A great GM can find that production for less and that won't be on day 1 in the usual overpaying frenzy.

They can and should when the situation dictates it's the right move. They have one bad RB contract they meed to eat, just blew a 2nd on a guy who they rave about and adding another expensive RB contract is a bad move. The other 2 moves dictate it's the right call and they need to pray that Brooks if legit and also being in another RB once they dump Sanders. Also maybe if they didn't blow so much on OGs it would be an option but given the state of the D and the already committed cap it's 100% the right move to not pay Hubbard. The problem was never about getting picks for players, except Moore and that stupid trade, it's the people picking the players. That can also be addressed and improved.

I really don't like being worse than the Jets lately. They are the next worst team in the Tepper error and it stinks. Darnold is on a 1 year deal in a perfect situation for him. We didn't use him well, as the bridge he could be, but we sure are not built for him to succeed here now. Of all of the terrible choices and outcomes he isn't very high on my list when compared to the rest of the poo show.

Ride in on a unicorn, look like an actual NFL player in game and then ride off the field on Santa's sleigh after a win...because all of that is a fantasy. The real win would be his last game in a Panther uniform. IR from a bruised career would be the win I desperately need to make this nightmare end.

If you want to draft better then we need new people. I'm more impressed with the 3rd rounders than the first 2. That is not good or good enough.

After he plays again this season we are going to have to cut him. He will not make the 53 so expect another camp and some preseason matchups agaisnt #3s to try and drum up a trade which won't happen.

The only positive with Young playing would be him finding his way to IR. Tweak something and that wasted roster spot opens up. That's all I have. He is terrible and I hope whatever it takes to have less of him moving forward happens. I exhausted with his dead weight hanging over the team since he showed up. Just make it end

He is going to be murdered. I might actually watch just to see that.