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I kind of get it. We are fans, we knew what was what and have for the better part of 13 years at that point. He didn’t. Ownership cares more about the business then the product, that's just normal. It was when we fired Ron and kept Hirney that was frustrating. He should have nutted up and hired a good consultant to assist him but like you said, water under the bridge. If that failure leads to Tepper making better decisions in the future then we are better off now.

It was a bad sign when he kept Hurney, it looks like he has learned from that massive mistake. That is a very good thing to see. Hire good football people and get the hell out of the way. That's what ownership needs to do if they are serious about being continously competitive.

A bad GM signed a backup to start with a contract that is bad. Teddy has and will continue to take a beating but he made out like a bandit for a backup level QB. It's harsh but a lot of truth.

HAHAHA, given the Lions history and ownership it's all very funny. Most likely this is going to be entertaining as could be hoped for.

Draft well, find a way to retain drafted talent and find value in the free agency. That's a winning model I hope we can follow now. I could see us going after a middle tier CB, OG and DT. Unless something drastically changes, we are not set up to have a reason to be chasing the mega free agent contracts. We need to figure out how to clear the dead cap mess, clear the dead weight on the roster (ie. KK), while getting into position to resign our drafted guys who will be ending their rookie contracts moving forward. I think an LT would be the one exception due to positional value & need but I haven't heard too much about what that will look like this year yet and hasn't worked out well for us in the past. I don't know if we have a chance at any comp picks this offseason other than Samuel. It doesn't sound like that will play a big part of this offseason for us.

Or a billionaire who puts ketchup on what I assume are quality steaks?

After watching Teddy hit the bench at the end of the season, I think there is a good chance Teddy and KK will be our June 1st cuts.

Multibillionaire asking for tax money is even less likable.

All I really hear is that he will probably sit a year and someone is getting a great and rested QB in 2022 on proper discount. They keep digging that hole lol

He just comes off that way over the years. Plus I only know him as the enemy so that tint doesn't paint a pretty shade. It's like wrestling really, if I saw him in real life I would just act like I knew nothing because that's probably true.

A startup couldn't afford a good vet?

Dude comes off as fake as a $3 bill and I just find him generally annoying. I love playing against him when our D can get to him. He makes crazy throws and keeps his team in a game and the season, I respect that. I should say the public image, you know what he is like personally more than I could guess.

I dislike Wilson as a person but he is a very good QB. With Cam it didn't matter if we matched up well, we had a chance. There was a time you had to go through the Seahawks to make it to a Super Bowl, now they are just scenery. Something has stagnated there.

Good stuff here! Happy about the guy who was the brakes in the trading back bonanza bit. Still worried this was the guy who was the expert in scouting side for them recently, hopefully that will be the other two in the room and less his personal preferences. Very happy to learn his overall demeanor, very positive. The lack of ego is a nice bonus.

The Seahawks get a lot of respect from the Legion of Boom, as they should have. In the last few years Wilson has carried that team, their drafts have been underwhelming and they have kept their heads above water through their pro-personnel department and good coaching. 12-4 and done in the wild card round. It would be an improvement for us but hardly the juggernaut days of years ago.

Just shows me you need to take the leap if the draft has quality options because there are years where signing a random vet and just having fun is better than letting your need push you into drafting a dud. 10-16, holy cow we lucked in with Cam.

Start up mentality the new slang for rebuild from the rebuild last year? Or are they going to make the office people work out of a garage? Just kidding. Kind of a dumb saying when referring to a billions dollar business but whatever. Would have been a lot more exciting and relevant if this was all done last year but it's here, again lol.

I wasn't trying to compare the two, you are dead on, just after the failure of Teddy here I personally just want to see a rookie. I guess I should phrase it, if we were to trade for Stafford before the draft I would be disappointed with the new GM. If it is a settling move to fill a massive need after the draft then whatever. I really do not like the idea of using draft picks outside of the last two rounds on a vet QB with the roster issues we are facing. Any of the vets are fine-ish for me if it's a post draft non-draft capital spent move. Technically we are already rebuilding after last years massive free agent failure.

I get it and I respect your view on it. I just don't want a vet as our answer at QB. I want to see a rookie we can build around. That's just what I want to see. I'm underwhelmed by any vet not Watson, and he is way too expensive to get to get. After Ted and massively disappointing overall roster building, I don't want another rental vet. I want a damn stud we hope to see play at least 10 years. If the draft doesn't go that way then sign a vet from the vet heap and prey we can do better.

It's a short term fix. It's a Hunrey-ish move if we give up draft capital. I don't like the one price away mentality he had. Especially with Ted's wasted cap that's probably going to be dead money soon. As a free agent, yeah I could see that as a huge positive. Stanford a couple of years ago was worth trading for, at this point just draft a QB with their 5 year window of cap friendliness and not a bloated vet QB contract.

Spending resources to get Stanford is moving in the wrong direction. Signing him as a free agent would be a different story.

No idea what your definition on what prime is but Cam was balling game 1 until his shoulder was ruined in 2018.

With Ted as the QB, a 1 is the ceiling for me. It's training camp season again. Fun but not for great football. If we don't get an acceptable QB then I will be staying home and selling those tickets, the team this year wasn't worth driving all day on Sunday to watch.