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Sure, in a bubble. For how long tho. We already have established that CMC can win you games at the expense of having any more of a career. Just send out meat for the grinder and pucker up. Better long term plan.

The body of work is what I am focused on and at this point I am at the 'chicken or egg, doesn't really matter because it's just chicken poo' place with it all.

Hating Mac Jones just feels natural, always has.

There is so much bad that it's hard to assign what to who. I'll take anything at this point but please don't forget to fire the personnel people. Play calling can't explain the moves we made this offseason.

We are closer to another rebuild than this one being at all effective. We have a D and CMC for an offense when he is healthy. This offseason was a giant set back, Riddick being the gem of it all. This is the NFL, year 2 should show progress and not a giant regression. This last offseason was so bad it will effect this offseason because we gave away so much capital to be in a worse position at the end of the year. That's a huge problem. Still, if they want any respect of allowances, they better start earning it. Edit: And the fact you are comparing us to the Browns is also not a good endorsement but a real sad fact of where we are.

Seriously do not want Watson. Also, everyone but Snow hasn't shown enough to earn any patients. They have the rest of the year, at least unless Tepper changes that. Prove it or GTFO and go back to school.

Can they see broken feelings on an MRI?

Fittzmagic LOL It really is a team effort in failure here. I just don't know how much was done by who.

BPA relies on all starting positions being filled, in this case by Darnold, Elf and Erving...That is a complete failure in personnel evaluation. With years of tape to back that up. Slater was never a reach, all they draft hype by the media is almost completely entertainment value of BS opinions and nothing else. The failure was thinking we were good to go and build a better D by ignoring our offense. Need can be dangerous but ignoring or just being woefully wrong at evaluations is just as bad.

Yeah, we could have had day 1 starters on the oline and we have to go into next year on another maybe if we are lucky guy...All the BPA believers need to see why BPA is a fantasy without positional value and needs mixed in. Our D needed a CB even when it was going to be solid but out dumpster fire of an oline gets no meaningful contributors. Huge fail by Fitts.

Drafted a LT in the 3rd who is 25 and had to play Daily at LT over him... Burn it all down

Yay, early in the year when football is sloppy and there is no film, like I said. Also, 2 bad teams a NO trying to get up to speed. The first 6 weeks every year is sloppy building towards functional or fiction. Those games he did not look good, the other teams looked bad. The Vikings drive is the one time he looked at his best and that was 1 drive.

Not shocking. Even with CMC they had their lunch money stolen.

They have been blaming anything but him all year, nothing different but their desperation now.

It was his job and he did it very poorly. Keeping Hurney as a crutch and hiring Rhule. All I was saying is that expecting Tepper to meddle in a positive way is a bit hopeful for me at this point.

He didn't even look that good the first 3 games, he just was covered up by the D and CMC being 95% of the offense game plan early in the year when football is sloppy and there isn't enough film. It was always fools gold, Teddy had a stretch and so did Allen. Reality always comes crashing down after 4 to 6 weeks.

His only positive for the year was the late 4th Vikings game drive. That was his ceiling and he could barely touch it once this year. I'm more proud of the dump I took this morning than that poostain of a QB. And that moment lasted longer too

The only one in the house I care about anymore is Snow. The rest can burn.

Last time he meddled he hired Rhule. Let's just say I'm ready for more pain than expecting salvation.

And an experienced GM, sure I could buy into that. I'm over this staff other than Snow.

He won't unless someone magically comes up with meaningful experience to take his hand and shoe him how to navigate the minefield he created. I don’t think that person exists in the building now. The fact he still coddled Darnold in the press conference yesterday makes me belive he is driving this ship straight at the iceberg still.

I like Leftwich but he is raw. Yes he has more NFL experience then our HC, OC and DC but that's a really low bar. Honestly, that's the kind of raw I would rather have taken a shot on then a college ra-ra guy who is terrible at managing personnel.