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He is a good #2 at best, that is what he is. Pretending he is a top CB is just foolish, he was never one and doesn't look to have the capacity to be one. He had a bad day on a matchup that should never have happened because we have a better CB on the roster that should have been covering the guy who ate his lunch all day.

Remember all those times when he lined up across the #1s when Bradburry was here? How about this year? Ohh that's when he craped the bed...no correlation there. Just an off game...SMH. I get liking a player but when they hit their ceiling the liking them part doesn't change how good they are or could be. SSDD.

That was to be unveiled in year 5 when this crew is ready for the NFL...

Are you surprised after the last Sam game? He was done at halftime and the world knew it. They still let him finish. I think they just don't belive it when they don't see what they thought they would see. Like it's going to turn around, just one more rep...idk it's ridiculous.

Best QB we have had the last 2 years and it's not close.

That is it and all of it. It's not Jackson hate but he is gearing up for a big payday and situationally we are not in a place where that should happen here.

The line dragged him to earth. Cam is good to go and will get better by the week. I think he saved us from the olines play a couple of times. Yep, D fell apart and was just awful yesterday. 100% agree. I was just talking about how the oline looked like the obvious weak link on the offensive side. Jackson is good but he isn't great. I just don't feel comfortable giving him a big contract. He is having his best year by far but it is also a contract year for him.

To be fair Ron took him to the woodshed, we just got to watch. All of his downs are as well documented as his ups. He is good but not nearly as good as some hyped him up to be. I agree he should have been in the slot all year, he isn't an outside CB against good WRs, our #1 has always taken that action and left the lesser WRs to Jackson or else. Well, we all saw or else yesterday.

They truly thought he was better than he is. He is a good #2 that's going to have rough days due to his limitations and play style. I hope they have learned better and saved us from a contract we would regret.

Some good truths there sir. I think them putting in Miller exposes their evaluation and exprctations. Why bring him back? We have been better without him. Cam really threw off the last game, I think this one was a coming back down to earth situation with an opposing coach that knows all the angles we are dealing with. I hate our oline coaching and values. Its aweful. I think Brady did solid with a guy who has been on the team a little over a week. Solid game plan but personal on the oline is a bigger proven issue than Brady's play calling IMO. I'm not sure I trust that lineup enough for pkayaction. 100% on the last part. Our subs is a broken system and I again think some of that is evaluation issues....Ron took Jackson to the wood shed the same week the Panthers were proving him up for a huge payday...lol and yikes

Meh, I'm still hoping he leaves for easier pastures. The honeymoon is over and his staff's learning curve is damn near flat. If they keep performing at this level there is plenty of justifications to rationally fire Rhule, I still think the third year should be earned. He's failing right now.

Meh, yesterday wasn't a playoff team. The staffs learning curve has been too flat to date, I can't get behind them if they can't figure out NFL 101s in their second year's. I just want to enjoy some mediocre football, it's a hell of a step up from the Sam games. That looks to be all I can expect out of that crew and the mess they have made.

I think the penalties show that the players trying to do something when they are getting beat like a drum. Jordan especially. That looked like the guy who got Burrow hurt. The coaching on the oline looks awful this year.

It's concerning.

I'm Guessing it is still set at 'our crowd didn't want to attended' again...

Considering all the factors, the O played well and the D got it's teeth kicked in. Always room for improvement, and I do belive we will see that on the O with time, but the D pooped the bed. They obviously think certain guys are better than they are and the player rotation not functioning well. It was a big reality check for our D.

He is the same bad player he has always been, it just takes about 4 games for the NFL to figure it out. That and Miller starting for whatever reason. Our taste in OG looks to be getting worse and not better. I get Jordan is garbage but that's were we found him, the guys we went willingly into this year with is the terrifying part to me.

All the hype about Jackson from Rhule, the Panthers and in the media only to watch him get picked apart in coverage. I know people love his swag but his play does not warrant a big contract. Gilmore is a better vet presence and should be a better contract for us. That is a guy who can play man against anyone. Jackson is way overhyped in his play.

Cam looked good. Arm looked great, still a little rusty but that is 100% to be expected. No more QB is the problem at this time. Same old oline. Inside looked to get blown up, BC looks solid in pass but weak in run and Jordan is falling apart out there.

Rhule and his staff and GM have proved that they are all overpromoted. Potential is great but for fugs sake have some old hands around. I don't see how these guys make it to year 3 with if this continues.

So there is a fire under Rhule's butt. Let it burn. This entire staff is too inexperienced.

Overhyped and not worth a big contract. Fun to watch when he can roam but not a lockdown CB.

This staff is failing 100%. Now that the Darnold stain had left the equation, the staff is the biggest issue.

D step the fug up! Stop playing soft. Hit the QB!

Same old song, some BS at this point. If you can't see how bad Sam is then you need to go see an optometrist quick like, something is wrong.