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Yes overspending on talent for 1 win. That's not impressive to me. Given the limits it put on everything else it's not a win in my eyes. Also looking like Moton might be done at those prices with Ickey coming up for his contract next, who is really should be an OG. Seems more like an expensive patch and less like a fix.

You are describing scheduled beginning of the work week meetings and addition meetings in the week in the bolded part ironically... Watch the clip and ask yourself if that guy meeting with Tepper doesn't have to worry. Also what could be productive about having to waste time explaining the basics of the game when he could be prepping for the next game, especially after so many loses? Again if it was a major trade or contract then absolutley get the big blessing. Making a general update on the state of things also completely expected. Whatever they are doing isn't work, like we can agree on that? These meetings have not produced much good since he got more hands on in 2020? A lot of the issue with it stems from how a hedge fund is run vs an NFL team. Lots of big money sure but the actual operations and management are not that similar IMO. If he is running it like his hedge fund, and it sure sounds that way, then this team is going to remain a dumpster fire for a lot longer.

I'm over Morgan. The only good thing he has done is the Jackson trade. Paying a RB and CB given the state of the team is just the wrong move and this is the last chance at much value. Hell their still paying his Sanders mistake while Brooks is still not ready. The team isn't going to win anything so why not hit the reset on the rookie contracts and actually stop with the poorly conceived retools. This last one really stunk.

Should have just traded Jackson for a pick straight up.

Not on day one and looking at this year I am more than fine with that. They will absolutley have to sift through the pile in free agency and find some people to play. Hopefully they are better than what they have found the last 2 years since Morgan came on board.

Watch the less than 2 minuet clip. He says he talks with Tepper multiple times per week and that there are different kinds of ownership. Please stop making excuses for those meetings. Yes ownership gets a lot passed by them for obvious reasons but that set up that Frank describes is just flat out a meddling ownership. 'He is not going to sit idly by'. If it was working then that's one thing. It's clearly not and yet they keep doing it, even after all the PR on him being more hands off.

They need to nail the first 3 picks IMO. IDK, it's hard to scrape together any real hope at this point. It sounds nice but that's not the way this team rolls. They are still waiting on their 2nd round pick to show up and displace Sanders while Thomas has already given enough reasons to just flat out cut him and try some PS guys since he got healthy.

2 years in a row we are winning the race to be the worst team. Congrats, I knew they could do it

Damn they had to move him but that's pretty bad. Another not a win for Morgan.

Cool, seems like a win-win. Any idea what they got for him?

Good. He needed to be sitting anyways and now he knows it. Such a bad look. What the hell was he thinking anyways

Some packaged looks on the other side but yeah not full time 2 ways.

Whatever it takes to get to the bottom faster. It will never improve doing the crap we have since 2020. Even the things that could have worked elsewhere sinks here giving the situation.

It absolutely can get worse. They keep proving that over and over. Some solid steps in the right direction would be huge but that hasn't happened still.

Sounds like a good way to piss off a player and guarantee they don't stick around longer than they have to. Seriously what's the 3 year outlook without a QB with a wasted disgruntled WR? Traded or forced to be kept while the other players see how we treat talent? Pass on all that. A CB at the top? Hard pass. They need core guys and that's just not DBs. If those are the options then just trade back. Horn is out there looking regular behind thay front 7. Sounds like more waste to me.

While training a rookie QB they were trying to protect up by a couple of scores? That's being outclassed. DC was doing Payton's work for him. Play prevent, allow some passes underneath and keep the clock running while he leans into his D. None of that is a good thing for the Panthers on any level.

I was a bit shocked since it was Payton. What did they say? 150 some yards in garbage time? Same old story.

They actually ship talent off and still find more. We are at the bottom because we only do the first part. I remember times when looking down at the Jets and thinking at least we weren't them. Rogers is running that corpse and it still has one more win lol

The video is as fake as X. He already does enough to laugh at. If you think we fans are getting off easy anytime soon I will just point out that Snyder owned a team for 24 years and makes Tepper look like a girl scout away from football.

Maybe. Luvu didn't want to come back and Burns was replaced has 4 sacks halfway into the year at that price. The D guys since he showed up have been unimpressive for the most part. His guys the last 2 years also hasn't been stellar. It does seem like the odd guy out but at this point I'm wondering if Dave is starting to not mind getting the boot either. It can't be a fun job on pretty much any level. There is also Caldwell as an easy target. I don't even know who would run the D, DC is having issues with the HC and OC duties might keep him around until black Friday.

Thomas is such trash. They could have saved millions by not having him around anymore lol.

He started fine as a rookie and picked up the green dot which is a lot of added responsibilities. I'm with you. I was hoping it was adjusting to the speed at this level but it's starting to look a little meh on his physical ability. I'm hopeful he can get better but that might be who he is on the field. TBD

Jones is also the kind of owner to give Johnson the deal he is looking for but they don't have to do that at the time of the trade.

I'm interested in who they move more than for what. He was a good short term rental but getting anything for him is a win. Hubbard is tougher but absolutley the right move also. Just stick with Sanders and that idiotic contract they gave him and hope Brooks is decent.