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Leftwhich. I am so happy the Jags fugged that one up. I wanted him last year. Who would be a good DC to pair with a new HC?

Close. Reid also went but didn't win one before he got to KC. It is a stat that has a lot of working parts in it but the biggest one to me is that HC that are successful tend to lean on what worked and not change like they did to get there. I think Madden had a quote about HCs having a window before they just do the same stuff over and over again.

All we need is a one quarter game where he plays the team that is literally paying him more than us to play this year. Just run the ball.

Trades for a QB that relies on a running game and chooses to lean on the passing game. Drafts a LT that is better with the run, raw in pass protect and decides to put his new QB behind that in his rookie debut game while going pass first scheme. Built his O around a RB who got hurt while attempting to carry the O for 2 years and then gets him under 15 touches when 100% healthy who's best play came on another botched snap. Hires an OC with experience but has to settle for his throw first O because no one good wanted to take the job, even though his D is built to best pair with a run first O. It is a full on failure and it's just week 2. He deserves so much more heat from everyone and I am going to enjoy watching him buckle under the stupid mess he made.

Thanks for the fun QB competition when he already won that when you traded for him. Fug Rhule and his excuses. If he cared about how new Bakler was then he would have run the ball and not passed 3 times to go 3 and out to open the game and setting the pace for a terrible 1st quarter. Someone ask Rhule if Tepper is happy just for fun at this point.

Rhule wins all of those matchups for worst HC by a good bit. Kingsbury could be the closest.

Thanks for the heads up. I missed that and saw CMC not MC. Crazy times in Pantherland

Lol, i missed that. We are already on QB watch in the draft. Sadly it doesn't matter.

Broken plays from the Browns helped. Had to get him out of the pocket. Just run the ball.

Thomas was lined up later next to Ickey but he blew some blocks too. Can not belive we paid that dud. He catches passes when the D forgets to cover him because he is 99% invisible during a game.

Not awesome at all if you are trying to win a SB. No SB HC in the modern NFL has won a SB with a second team right? So hard pass and him going to the Boys and doing what McCarthy is doing will be a lot more fun IMO.

Eric B has something bad going on, no idea what the hell it is. I was higher on him in the past but now I am extremely weary of him. Not all good coordinators are going to make good HCs. He doesn't call the plays right? He seems to have an abrasive or toxic personality, it all just sounds like passing on him would be the safe call.

I don't really care. Great player but RBs can be had for a lot cheaper and he has either been massively overused to whatever the hell yesterday was in the game plan. Stay, go or trade. I'm fine with all of it if the vision from the GM and HC is coherent and based in winning principles and not the BS team building we have been doing the last 3 years.

Yes and no to the rookie thing. He is basically a rookie form playing experience but he was near the team all last year and that is still a lot more experience than any rookie has right now. I think basically a rookie covers Horn but when you compare what Ickey is going through vs what Horn is going through it kind of an important distinction. Rookie adjacent? IDK, got to be an acceptable term for his situation. I agree about Ickey and Horn right now. Kind of on Brown. I need to see him in another scheme before I can get on board with being a 100% bust. I don't think we use him well at all and I think he is out of position. Stupid pick if that is how you use a top 10 pick when we could have taken a NT much later in any draft. I kind of would like to see him at LE in a 3-4.

The 5 to 7 year plan was a giant red flag. If you are not improving and starting to compete at the end of year 2 then you shouldn't see a year 3. He shouldn't even be here this year after the turd he birthed last year.

Way too early for both. The game plan of heavy throwing and a screen on his side to open the game was monumentally stupid for his first game. We should have run that damn ball for the first quarter to build Ickey up some and give the passing game a better chance to establish itself. Horn needs to stay healthy and Ickey needs time...well we have a year of practice in front of us. We will know if he is a LT or an OG by the end of the year. I expect some more fug-ups along the way for both. It is what rookies do.

Only if/when CMC goes down. He is basically a backup for what CMC does in the passing game...minus the excellent blocking. Don't really care as it stands, another guy for the coaches who should be gone soon.

True but that is also what a wildcard team probably looks likein the NFC this year, good enough to score but shut down by a really good team. Opening against KC is brutal lol.

First non-Panthers game I watched in a while and I just found myself enjoying watching them. Just really good football.

This is who Baker always was, it's just his worst version as Rhule delivers with his QBs. He is not a franchise QB but he is good enough to work with a rookie HC with time to find a franchise QB...for the right price.

When he was hired I went and watched videos of him speaking. It was then and it was obvious he was full of BS. I cheered for him the first year anyways but he proved it completely in the second offseason. He fleeced Hurney and Tepper for so much money and is wasted 3 years of Panther football. Fug him

The coaching improvment debate glossed over 'better is not automatically good' part for way too many and it soulds like baseless hope is shifting now. I would still take the lot trying to keep in the NFL vs waiting to get fired and run back to the easy school game of fleecing grown children with their bags of money anyday. Even if it won't be good it should be slightly better.

Naw. Just fire them both and hand it over to the interm coaches we picked up. Let the ST guy do the HC stuff and McAdoo and Wilks cordinators. Every game becomes an audition in live action practice. It would be such an instant improvement over that duo of endless BS.

The same people that threw emotion agaisnt facts and concerns blindly going farther down the delusional rabithole? I am shocked, shocked I say