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Deals like that should be taken and not given. They fugged up and there is no way around it once the 2nd was thrown in. I get 2 future first being hard to swallow but that was a deal they wouldn't have to justify to anyone. Again, if they are not good enough to use that kind of capital well having Burns here won't change our fate.

Ohh I am fine with snagging a QB. There is zero excuse to not in this draft. It may not be a 1st but that debate can't really rage until we know where we are picking and who is available. I was saying it would be nice to have that safety net to take another swing if the first one wasn't good enough. Another 1st in 2024 gives us a lot of options in a worst case scenario.

I think people are still shellshocked from last year. When thr bar drops that low it begins to muddle the view because it is all up and so far at that. Pretty much how we will be talking during the coach search after Frule.

So your telling me having another first next year would be a great option now...interesting.

Tepper hasn't hired a consultant yet so we are probibly stuck with the FO guys I want to see fired. Wilks is a good guy trying to be what he isn't so I have no hate for him. The players are practicing so I'm resigned to that. It doesn't look to have any positive effect other than mocking Tepper so have at it if that is what you want to chant in another exciting pooshow game I hope I don't forget to watch.

Nope. We should tade him in the offseason for a 1st and 3rd or such after firing Fritterer. Clean up in 2023 so there is no stink left from the last nightmare.

Burns isn't a Peppers or Luke. Is is solid and not some Panther great. His production is replaceable. He has sold some jerseys but the seats being full or empty has little to do with Burns being on the roster. Good guy and fun but replaceable.

Thursday is the worst football day and this game only makes it worse. I'm a fan and might still forget there is a game on woth my team in it. Watching Amazon eat these crap games for a billion dollars is a huge bonus tho.

The 2nd in 2023 changes it to too good to turn down and yet they did. The firsts being future picks is fine in that equation. There is no defending not making that trade for Burns, he isn't worth close to that.

In camp and preseason. There are zero guarantees and we may need him. Look at Lance. Also having a valuable 2nd QB would be killer. So he is getting a shot. I'm just not sure he can make it into a season at this point not on IR.

He is getting a shot regardless but I'm not holding my breath on him coming back and going super nova. One of his biggest concers was durability coming out so looking bad in this preseason isn't what makes me tepid on hope with him at this point. If he can come back next year and just be available then I would be happy to see what he can do.

He is very good. I deleted it because it felt harsh. He isn't great unfortunately, at least not here. I agree as a 3-4 edge the tackles would go down but sacks way up. I think he also plays well at LDE but we rotate him becaude of the lack of priduction from the other players. Some here treat him like a unreplaceable player yet Riddick was just picked up for cheap and no picks was really my point. We absolutely should have traded him for that haul and it wouldn't have had to be justified at that price.

The Saints need to get away from their now unnecessary cap hell now that they are not contenders. We can clean up our mistakes by the end of next year if we are smart and they can't. They look limited as long as they are still operating like it's still 2017...and they still didn't win a SB with all that fuggery lol.

He is part of a lawsuit against that behavior. I get PJ for the short week and pick change with Baker but that explanation reeks after Rhule.

Too soon to tell. Ask again at the end of the season.

Great coaches on the offensive side. McD has been very good on his side but he has had a stacked staff on the other side until Daboll left this year. It all starts there for Allen. I don' think he would be nearly the QB he is today with most of the teams he could have gone to that year.

Burns absolutely should have been traded for 2 1st and a 2nd. If you don't have the crew to pick up at least 2 very good players with those 3 picks then keeping Burns isn't going to matter either way. He isn't wrong but I think Moore for just a 1st is too little vs his value and decent contract. Jackson is the DJ I wish we could ship off for a 2nd and 4th/5th. Plenty of solid CB talent coming out and he isn't worth his contract.

Honestly I didn't think Rhule had many positives after they traded for Sam onwards so everything this year was just waiting for the inevitable to me. New coaches, Baker or better Oline I was pretty vocal about not having any belief he wouldn't face plant because that is all he has done and his actual football skills only apply to the college level, last year proved that. Even if he improved some this year it wouldn't be enough unless he did a 180 at lightspeed lol. Easier to win the loto tonight then for me to believe that after his constant idiocy and incompetence on so many levels. I can completely respect a fan to be excited and hopeful but not blind and unrealistic. Some of they hype coming into this season was just embarrassing. We could have had Daboll but we are going to have a really high pick in a better draft after snagging a legit LT so it's not all bad IMO.

Lol that is what I have been doing since we brought back Rhule in January. Just another month, at least it is more fun now. Allowing yourself to get hyped in our situation is just asking to get your feelings hurt for no good reason.

He may not be first in line on blame for those but unless he was screaming 'NO' then he was probably part of the problem. Just those 2 moves will is enough to fire a HC and/or GM. When they got Ryan I knew it was going to end poorly over there. And after Wentz like they learned nothing.

Just appears to be a once good HC that got old and stagnant by NFL standards. I wouldn't discount this as Ballard's time to prove he should stay after the moves they have made recently.

No but 2 future 1sts and a 2nd is good enough for most players. I was just saying that usually the offseason trades are for less than in-season trades because there are more options on the table for any team. We may get a 1st and a future 2nd but I doubt we see 2 first for him let alone the total 3 pick package. He is a good player but he isn't nearly that good. Sounds like the Eagles were going hard for a SB this year. JR was pretty conservative. The Gilbert trade was for 2 1st and I think that made him even more conservative. I always want to be a seller and not a buyer in those deals. If you don't have good enough people to find a replacement with those kinds of picks then you have a lot larger issues than losing 1 player. Maybe not QB but not always.