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This play. People made such a big deal about it and I believe Cams reasoning for not diving on ball. The ball looked like it would pop right at his feet after 94 raked at it but 64 dived at it and it went a little behind Cams foot. This game to this day was rigged for Manning to win. As u can see Remmers man beats him every time. I blame Remmers for the loss and most of all coaches bc they left him on the island with great speed rushers which atl had expose in their 1 loss. They under estimated Denvers defense big time and had no plan against it. That play is not the reason the Panthers lost.

Cam can play well and we still loose. We have seen this before.

Maybe bc what was experienced by Ron. Ron should have been gone yr 3 for me. I complained every since them I believe. I wanted Cam to have a different coach for development. Coming to a team that was bare and a rookie coach that was learning just like Cam was a stunt in growth for Cam and the team. 4th yr Cam or Ron should have been gone but I preferred Ron gone and a more seasoned coach to get the most out of Cam. I feel when you have been exposed to poo for so long. You recognize sooner than you did the 1st time. I think Tepper made a mistake probably in hiring another rookie to come into his own, but if you going to do that you have to be completely sold out to him. Which means him picking his own coaching staff and drafting who he wants to coach.

Dang, man oh man! Bless his soul!

Not exactly sure he would have kept Cam

It looks like Rhule is another Ron to me but not as good. Defense first and cupboard bare on offense. Expecting one guy to do everything (cmc) to save you on offense. Cmc is already broke, he didn’t last long either. Talent evaluator poor just like Ron's. Didn’t improve we got worse. DB was good at AU personally I think the whole coaching staff is the big issue.

Yea, he is good at beating a few good teams and will wet the bed on teams he should beat. He loves the underdog role.

He had talent where he wanted on the defense and came up short. Not even so much was the offense bad. Even tho we had no wrs. Olsen, stew, and Cam made it work. It was when Ron was called upon to use his wit(coaching staff) we fell short. It's probably the same in Wtf if it works he will not try to improve but just keep what he has.

We were too with him. I may be biased toward Ron maybe he has learned a thing or two since his departure from panthers but I doubt it. He has to win a SB. There is nothing left for him to achieve and no he doesn't want star power on his teams. I haven't seen not one SB team that won have not one star player on their team. Not even the qb.

It's not so much as draft position Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers proved that.. I think it goes into work ethic and what you produced on the field. What type of offense you played in and arm strength. The team you go to has to match your skill set. Coaching plays a big part in getting young QBs adjusted to the NFL life.

Ron. He should be a college headcoach. When you come to the Nfl you should be good. I don't consider developing a qb in the NFL. Qbs have to adjust. I wouldn't want a qb that I would have to develope bc it seems that you would loose ground. If you need to develop then you need to have a good veteran in place. Most teams don't. The qb needs to be able to adjust or be special enough to still be able to win learning on the fly. Thing about that though most are not going to change much. The saying if it ain't broke don't fix it , comes to mind. Ron will not sniff another SB bc he doesn't want greatness. He proved it when he was here. Just look how teams would come back and beat us. He is a poor man's Arians!

Of course it runs smoother . Cam is coming off the street. Pj has been here . The players are familiar with him.

They didn't developed Cam either. That is why his career is shot.

I don't think anyone has said Cam can do no wrong. Cam came off the couch and has had no time really to learn the offense or no real time with the line or the wrs. He was bound to have a bad game. I wasn't thinking this bad but I knew it was coming. This needs to play out. He deserves a chance to see if he can be aa starter. You brought him in half season gone and bc he didn't play well you stop him from starting. If he was the sole reason why u lost I could entertain it but he wasn't. You made him the starter for the rest of the season the moment you brought him back. You have to ride this out.

Who was he going to throw to? No one getting open has been the story of his career. Wrs? Name one good one outside of Steve smith

You have to start at the top. The guys who drafting and the coaches. It appears that the Tepper train has jack knixed. Whole train gone off the track.

The line is bad, but that doesn't mean Darnold isn't too!

From what I have seen out of the last 2 games Offense doesn't have enough playmaker and coaching sucks. Somebody in the Wrs group needs to step up and want the ball. Seems like nobody wants the ball. We have no tight end. Most teams do. I mean Cam contributed majorly to the Dolphins loss but. He was due to have a very off game. Cmc bound to break again bc of the type of plays he runs. Need a true piwerback.

Cam is Cam and I like seeing the celebrations. Of course I rather it be when winning but maybe it is something he uses to try to spark himself maybe energize the team. It's when people like you want to take things out of context bc it makes you feel uncomfortable. Would you rather him sulk? He tried that, or be just stone faced and not give a F? I admit he played bad, but I'm hoping it's a fluke. It may be the end but let him enjoy it his way he chooses.

Cam strengths right now are his legs. These runs up the middle are not going to get it. You need someone to be creative and limit his throwing bc he is not the Cam of old where he can chunk it down the field repeatedly. I just wonder what kind of practice are they running with Cam. No body wants Cam gone bc he is a very likable person but if your done as a starter it is what it is. I am hoping that Miami game was a fluke and he can bounce back.

Rigged games in football and NBA too much money has got involved and yes I am about done with sports all together..

I told yall. Cmc demised started with Ron. He ran Cmc into the ground. Trying to make him run inside all the time when really just too small and just bc he was successful somewhat they continued and so did this regime bc we have never had good coaches but amateurs who come and get generational talent and build their careers off of them and make the talent short lived a battering ram but never really live up to their full potential. Until panthers stop investing in rookie coaches never get a SB. No matter how much talent once you face a match up ( Denver) the coaches are the deciding factor. I know alot of you say oh Cam didn't jump on the ball that's why we lost the SB. That's not true our coaches never got on the bus. They relied on the pure talent of this team and drive. They couldn't solve a problem that simple Huddlers saw and it is the same today.

I feel the same but he put together a good game after bye and then a bad one after. I believe he is done bc the arm may not be good enough to use multiple games and throws.

I will give him this goose egg but if he shows the same outing then yes it's time for him to retire.

I quit looking after the 2nd one didn't think the 1st one was all Cams fault but the second one was. Don't know if it was miss communication but if not definitely Cam. From what I am seeing everything is wrong on the offensive side of the ball. Should be doing the two qb set up until Cam learned the offense. I think the excuse will be Cam. To keep Brady on, but really the calls and play designs are suspect and defenses are onto the schemes.