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I mean it's not even like this was his worst game of the season... I'm not done with him by any means but this feels more the norm for him than the exception:/

I'd give it a C mainly because of Brooks. If we just didn't have a 2nd I'd argue B to B+ tbh. Brooks was a bad gamble, tho one that could still pay off long term. Yes XL only has 400 yards but... Look who is throwing him the ball. And I think he isn't a "true #1" but he's been able to consistently get open. Hands definitely need to be cleaned up. But he should end the year with 500-600 yards. Like you said - Sanders looks great. Get him a better QB / more time with a QB and I think he's gonna impress. We added a couple rotational players on D that have both made plays and show promise for the future from later rounds. So I'd say, Brooks really hurts this drafts grade. It'll be interesting to see how it progresses over the next 3 years. I've overall really liked Morgan's FA acquisitions, so...

Tepper has fuged us so much. I wonder if we'll ever know definitively what power he exerted. It seems he's finally letting Canales and Morgan alone, so I'm really hopeful. The one heartening thing to me is we finally did the smart thing this last offseason and invested a ton in our OL. The problem is that left the D neglected... But I think this offseason can do a lot. I'm not as down on our offseason as others - our draft looks much worse because our 2nd round pick was a dud, but free agency wasn't bad, and we finally have young offensive weapons to have some excitement about. The 2 later round drafted D players both had some nicer games late this season - which is about what you can ask for.

Yeah, 6 or 7 makes sense assuming incremental Bryce improvement and not a backslide into last year. But we also could surprise in a weak division if some of our draft picks take big steps forward.

XL is a good rookie - but a rookie. He needs wrist surgery, but he's had a promising campaign Brooks yeah. That was a mistake. Wallace was starting to look decent. But injuries happen. Sanders looks very good so far. Smith-Wade has had a couple nice plays and seems like good depth. I don't think this is a failure of a draft class at all, still too early to tell, but some promising players.

I think it'll depend how well next year goes. If he's projected #1 overall because of pedigree and how well he does, why not?

How so? A dude that can catch anything no matter how well thrown seems like a good idea for any QB... And it's not like Bryce needs some huge speedster with his arm strength limitations

Why would he say that? Why go from over bottom tier team to another?

I don't hate Bryce at all, I just want better for this team.

Same way we'd get one by keeping Bryce, I expect. Drafting and developing someone new.

We've seen how well we do when we draft a QB #1 overall. It's time to build a consistent offense any way we can... And a clear upgrade path is thru QB. Time for competition.

I'd hope for a poo ton more than Brock Purdy for this franchise, frankly. I do hope Bryce turns it around and can play consistently at a higher level than we've seen. I just doubt it. He's lacking the physical tools...

I don't think Purdy is top 5 but he is probably a top 10 QB when healthy. I do not see evidence Bryce could get to his level yet.

Starting is about consistency. Within a game, and between them. And Bryce has seriously lacked it. Bryce has had a few good games. So did his receivers, frankly. So did his OL.

We invested more than $150 million and a 1st 2nd 4th round draft pick in our offense last draft. Bryce needs a perfect team around him just to look better than average...

What about other teams OLs? Our QBs have been sacked 28 times (21 on BY).. This is virtually the lowest of any starting QB. Mahomes is at 35. Burrow at 33... Jayden Daniels is at 37 and CJ Stroud at 45. Yes others are lower but that's because good fuging luck sacking Allen lol.

Not to mention the draft picks on O... Everyone saying we need to get Bryce more weapons needs to realize we did. The OL is the best "weapon" an offense CAN have, and we added skill players... Sure I'd love to add another WR if it's BPA... But we ultimately need to invest in defense and bring in some qb competition

Bryce needs a perfect OL to have average to slightly above average passing production, as the last few weeks have shown. That's what we hang our hat on? Meh. He may very well be the best QB on the roster, but that isn't saying much at this point. I hope he bounces back to have a monster game next week. The issue is, that's basically 215 yards and a TD for him.

We've managed 24 points or more three times this year and only once with our current QB. We've scored 70 fewer points than the average NFL team. Our defense IS worse than our offense, but we spent so much more on offense this offseason.

The defense blew against Dallas, but they're playing beyond their talent level overall. We had injuries to the worst possible players to have injuries on D because we were so thin at their positions. But it's so hard to overcome an inept offense...

I mean... He may not be a problem, but when is he ever the solution? I think that's my concern... And you'd be right about 3 of the last 4 games... What about over the last 20 Bryce started?

Tepper Rhule Drafting BY over Stroud

Why not explain?

Yup. We have seen some of these TE routes when Tremble is in, I'd be curious why we don't with Sanders. In general I think we need to find ways to get the ball into his (and Coker's) hands as much as possible

Ehh 2 of our OL had 50-60s, which is not great comparatively but Bryce was a 39 and second lowest graded player on offense... I do not understand why we weren't chipping edges etc, and we ran empty what seemed like far too often. I think the idea was to beat the rush with quick routes but man, several times rushers were practically unblocked... Second bold is my concern. He did not read the field at all. He honestly was not reading the field well vs the Eagles either, tho he still was playing much better there.