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For sure. We can support and like all three young QBs and hope they all succeed. Total overreaction to think we made the wrong choice

Appreciate that! Just my thoughts. It's totally possible he'll never be aggressive in the NFL because he may never feel comfortable enough with the game to be so. I hope that is not the case, but plenty of rookies end up playing scared at the next level. So we will see.

There's a bit of a difference between safe and cautious. At times last week he was cautious but in college he certainly played aggressively when he needed to. He was a play maker by extending plays etc and I think we will see more of that as he grows... I remember some pre draft videos where he was fitting the ball into windows that would be called risky.

What's to develop? We already know he's a failed draft pick since he didn't put up 100 yards and 2 TDs in his first game. Why settle for mediocrity?!?!?!!

Weird to come away with such different feeling... I thought the video highlighted some great plays and ways we will hopefully see Bryce improve in the future...

Lots of reasons to be upset at Fitt, but Horn specifically isn't a very good one. On the other hand, general depth at CB does seem fair...

Bryce Young wasn't good.... for a veteran. But for his first game, it wasn't bad... the film breakdown supports that IMO. Maybe it's me, but I'm happy when I see a rookie early in the season have a couple of good drives in the game. Ideally we will be seeing development quickly. I get harder on players by the mid and end of the season... but right now, eh... still a lot to learn. He definitely made his share of mistakes. All we've heard suggests he will learn and grow from them... we'll see. And an awesome, incredibly useful thread here. Thanks OP and huddle fans for the good discussions to read so far.

Can't blame the GM for the injury bug that has bit Horn... I don't think Horn had a serious injury history in college, did he? Hopefully he comes back from this quick, but I'm not exactly hopeful for his longevity.

Seems our short yardage problems never are resolved...

Him playing is because both he and the team expect a deal to get done to keep him here, imo, even if they're apart now.

It's okay to be disappointed and even frustrated or say a bit upset that we aren't seeing better play, but realistically this is preseason for a team with new coaches and new players at key positions... Now, preseason isn't inspiring any confidence in me, but eh, it doesn't need to. I'll wait until week 1 to overreact;)

Yeah! We should shut down the teams entire social media presence any time we have a bad preseason game. That'll teach those players to progress!

The issue at hand appears to be he made no money from his own story, not the accuracy of the events. Will see what more comes of it...

QBs are part of setting protections, and these guys are professionals... Plus Bryce, while confident, doesn't sound arrogant. So I think there's no need for worry on it coming off the wrong way. But wow, very impressive for a rookie QB so early in his career...

I'm not sure I agree in all senses; I think we all have a limit on how fast and in what way we can learn complex things... And you can reinforce bad habits or incorrectness if you don't grasp something , not to mention the frustration of just screwing things up for other players. It's why offenses are almost always simpler for rookies and grow thru the season. It's why some coaches are criticized for not having good offenses for rookies, etc... But BY is incredibly smart and by all accounts is picking the offense up extremely fast. So I don't think we are moving him along too fast.

To your point, Smitty had almost 1200 yards and Moose had 800 some... We don't have a single receiver that we could expect to be near Moose or Smitty's abilities in 2003. We actually do have someone that reminds me of Proehl, though, and it's possible TMJ or others step up in unexpected ways...

I think the last couple weeks, for sure. Few weeks is a bit harder. There was a distinct change in atmosphere here a couple weeks before the draft.

Depends when in the draft process. Lots of us preferred stroud at one point or another but weren't exactly anti Bryce and especially in the last few weeks things turned very pro Bryce I think.

Sports is political, no way to get around it easily. Most of ESPN's content is not political at all, it's just bad.

The only way he's replaced in week 4 is if it's due to injury...

I largely think your proportion of total yards makes sense, but I think these numbers would probably mean we're looking at a ~4.1-4.2K yard passing rookie season for Young, which is possible but I think may be a bit high. Each of the last two years, the Colts had ~700 yards receiving by TEs and ~650 by RBs. We certainly have a very good RB threat and I wouldn't be surprised if our TEs got around 600 yards, so I just don't see those kind of numbers.

This is a North American city problem, though. There's worse places for sure, but I agree with you, fwiw.

Yes, I think you're onto something. I think that good safeties - more than good linebackers even - are still important for defenses. But, their skill set is very different now. Explosive passing offenses require different skill sets to defend than primarily rushing offenses and the most gifted pass defenders will naturally end up corners in college rather than safeties. The enforcers, run defenders of the past just seem less critical and they don't get noticed the way, say, corners might.

A bit bigger but it's all perspective. He'll still look small in the huddle etc. It's all good, he'll bulk a little.

The bust term is always associated with where folks are drafted, and so Hurst has, to this point, been a bust. He could still bounce back, and I expect he'll be a solid contributor for us. But we can't pretend he hasn't had an opportunity to show up. He has.