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I mean trading down almost always sounds like a good plan but unless you're taking late round peanuts, there needs to be a blue chip player someone else wants, which is usually a QB. We're going to very likely be drafting at 4 or later I suspect, where both QBs and Hunter should be gone...

I'd be down for QB, but I think we'll be deciding between DL and WR. With the top 2 QBs gone by 4/5, I don't see trading down as likely to be easy / worthwhile. TMac looks really good... And DL is a big need but I just don't love taking a DT that high and none of the edges seem worth #4. I may be wrong tho, playoffs can change things.

I'm not saying Bryce is done, can't ever be starter quality, etc... but if in our final sample size of this year we've got 3 (or more, still season to go ...) bad games from him, vs 3 good games (maybe 1 or 2 great), and the rest are somewhere between below average to slightly above it... We can be sure QB is a position that might have an upgrade out there. At a very minimum we need to bring in competition in the offseason for Bryce - and not just grandpa red rocket, but somebody Canales thinks could really develop. I do think Bryce has improved and I'm not suggesting cutting him, but I just don't think it's wise to go into next season without another plan.

I think our defense is so very bad we need to keep everyone capable out there. Clowney has been a bright spot. We can rotate young guys in but those dudes aren't getting play time cause they're not very good atm

Oh no.

He's promising, but almost all those yards came on a broken coverage. He did look open other times but Bryce couldn't get him the ball, however we'll have to see from the all22 how it went. I'm excited about what he brings to us and I'm not ready to say what his ceiling is yet, but I'm also not ready to go with a star in the making. It's good we have more games to evaluate him with. If he was really that guy, we wouldn't be needing to draft a receiver early this coming draft or go big in FA . But as of today we still need to.

Canales is working with what we have on offense, I think.

The defense could not get off the field, and they frequently were put on short fields... Offense was not good, to put it lightly. Chuba was largely contained. Coker had a great TD on broken coverage but showed real speed to take it all the way. OL had their worst game of the season. Young had terrible turnovers, missed throws, and just looked too much like Old Bryce.

That's fair, but all I'm saying is that Canales thinks Ward is that guy, go for it.

QB is a position like any other. If an upgrade is available and it's the pick you think upgrades the team most... Go for it

I just don't agree with this. If there's a QB that Dave "QB Whisperer" Canales thinks is better than Bryce, you absolutely take him. I don't forget what Bryce did the last few weeks. Nor do I forget what he did for his first season and however many games. And ultimately this is his second season and we're having to hang out hats on 3-5 decent to good games.

I don't believe that. Our OL is good. We have a good RB. We have good young receivers. We need more receiving help and definitely a better D but Bryce has to overcome significant physical limitations that these other prospects don't have.

I think that depends... I don't think we should reach for a QB. But there is a scenario where we have a shot at one of the top 2...

I dunno man he may not have completely fell apart but he had some very bad decisions. I am still wanting to see him the rest of the season but we entered the fourth quarter with 1 very long play and he was otherwise like 50 yards passing on the day. That's terrible...

The main reason is because the team has a ton of holes, and this is purportedly a weak QB class. I would love Cam Ward but I just doubt we're in position for him.

The defense was decent in the first half. But the Cowboys were killing themselves in the first half too.

You're right. He doesn't. But many of us want a QB that elevates the team consistently and the reality is this game is more like Bryce in terms of his overall history than the the last 3

His schemes and gameplan seems great But his play calls aren't great. So I think that's a solid idea,heh

Bryce may not have been the only problem today, but he was one of the bigger ones.

Bryce's story isn't written yet but I don't think you can go into next season without some serious competition - and potentially taking one of the top 2 QBs if they somehow fall to us. Let Canales revamp the QB room.

At this point I don't care where he was drafted; but he doesn't look like he is really worth building around. He has a few more games but if he's going to turn in games like this, yuck. This was really bad.

We might have a shot at Cam Ward...

I don't know, the ball was just under thrown. More on it and more inside and that's a TD. Bryce CAN make that throw, but I dunno, the lack of him doing it consistently is concerning

Whatever Young had on his deep throws vs KC and TB has just been gone today. If we see another game like this this year I think we should consider a QB if one actually falls to us.

Lol Bryce just terrible