mav1234

I don't know that he actually looks the worst the last two weeks... He's made some very good decisions and throws. I've watched a lot of games and he's been pretty middle of the pack in terms of QB play, and his limiting turnovers has been huge. But it's just two weeks, and while the Giants are a good passing D, NO is not. So let's see what Kingslayer does against the Chiefs...

I don't know why you'd think this. You can absolutely progress as a team by playing against teams that are at the same level as yours. We've got a lot of young guys that need reps, and the fact they're performing is really exciting. Unless you somehow think the #1 pick is worth sacrificing any development etc... as if that pick always works out. And let's be realistic, we're still gonna be picking top 10 when all is said and done.

If we somehow beat the Chiefs with 60 yards passing I'm putting up a Canales statue...

Wanting Bryce to fail and having a hard time believing he will succeed are two very different things...

Sure, but you're talking about two players that have previously carried games for their teams this year.

Technically it is. Honestly he limited mistakes against a decent defense, so good on him. Their pass defense isn't bad at all, their scoring D is in the top 10. Their rushing defense blows, and we took advantage.

If this was Bryce's first year I wouldn't be as down on him - but this isn't. He's got, what, 2 TDs and 300 yards in our 2 wins?? He has had a few nice drives and throws in that time that inspire hope, so we'll see...

He probably will get credit for a GWD in OT tho lol.

All of them. The Kingslayer is locked and loaded. But in all seriousness we could get a couple more wins. If the defense continues to generate turnovers, we can win off of a run-first offense. We won't win a shoot out, but our division is pretty crappy and realistically we could beat any of our division opponents. Dallas and Arizona are possible. I don't see us beating KC or Philly, but I didn't see us winning even another game before NO, so...

It seems that the story of the day was really turnovers (which are sometimes mistakes, sometimes just great plays)

He's definitely playing better. At this point I just want to see improvement every week. But I don't want us going into next season with him as our primary option unless that weekly improvement really accelerates.

So I missed the first half and only came in for the fourth - how was BY in the first half?

Well if nothing else hopefully this game puts the "we should pick up Daniel Jones!" Nonsense to bed.

Kingslayer, baby

If only we could play college teams, our QB might look exceptional again

So trying to reboot Bridgewater, Darnold, and Mayfield's careers weren't enough... Now we're pushing for Daniel Jones? Ergh. If he's cheap while we develop a rookie, fine. But I have no interest in building around another team's reject. We have our own rejects to build around

I'm not really getting Lamar Jackson vibes from watching Ward, tho he is very dynamic and exciting too. He just doesn't seem as athletic / elusive. But I'm pretty much just watching highlights, so I could be wrong. I don't think he needs to be Lamar to be real successful from what I'm seeing tho.

For sure - he was not (is not?) ready or capable to adjust to NFL defenses and speed, and our offense last year didn't help him (nor did he help them!). We'll see how that changes the rest of the season but my biggest fear is he delivers a few more back-up worthy performances, and we somehow think he's our long term solution. But I don't think his failures are work ethic related... Maybe I'm wrong. I suspect we'll know more when he's gone some day.

It's definitely a trend, see Carr and Rodgers, Cousins, too. But multiple of those teams also drafted a young QB to groom. And as you highlighted the trend isn't really leading yet to sustained post season success.

I get that concern - but I think that concern about a 2nd on Brooks is the same if we pay Chuba this or not. I think Brooks is a long term future investment. Chuba is for now and the next few years. Ideally Brooks is worked back slowly and by having both you limit wear and tear. It's also a matter of value - if Brooks was far and away their highest rated player on their board, it makes sense to take him. The way we use RBs I'm very excited to see Brooks in the offense at full speed, but if he's what a lot of us hope, we'll want to make sure we don't run him into the ground in the longer term, too.

Yes, yes I am. Have you seen the dude physically? I mean he's just lacking in every physical aspect of the game. The one area he has any success is throws with crazy anticipation. Because that's the only way he can compete passes much past the LoS.

Edit: woops misread Even with their current stats the rookies are really contributing on O. It's really good to see

Man it really sucks we won! Things went so well for us last time we had the #1 draft pick!!!

Ehh the Saints allow 8 fewer ppg than we do... They're terrible too tho. Maybe BY will have a career as a back up if he can keep improving but the elation over his game is a little much.

Bryce played one of his better games at QB, I think he was substantially better than his stat line. However, that basically puts him at "backup" level... For one game. He isn't the future, but he is the present, so I sure hope he can improve on this game.