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Wait how the heck does Bryce have an 82 if his highest subgrade in passing was only 78? What the fug haahaha
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Imo it isn't just that he was 10th best. It was that he was basically only average / above average overall at 67. His rushing was elite that game. Yes he had holes but he also had tons of yards after contact.
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A score in the 80s vs 90s is basically "good to great" vs "elite." I would argue that low 80s is lower than Rico deserves as i have trouble characterizing his rushing as less than elite yesterday. And still the idea that his overall score on the day was just "above average" is fuging insane and represents a problem with their scoring.
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Eight of Bryce Young's nine wins have come off game-winning drives
mav1234 replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
Hey cool, we have the #1 rushing offense in the NFL by total yards! 3rd by YPG too, so... Pretty damn good. -
Is your argument that Bryce Young isn't good enough to take over a game, and so needs insane performances from superior players in order to shine?
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"Plays well" vs "near historic performance" are pretty different things. It's important to keep in mind the Cowboys passing defense is league worst and their run defense is nearly so, for sure. But one of those two players vastly outperformed what most other players have done versus the Cowboys and the other had fewer yards than typical (but still played very well imo, and did all we needed him to). Rico pretty much doubled up virtually every other single back that has played the Cowboys. So yeah I get why people would be surprised that Rico is so far down the list of O players.
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My concern is that if we move the goal posts from 10 to 15 yards he has generally looked much worse this year than last in aggregate. Prior to the last 2 weeks I think he only has 1 or 2 completions over 20 yards, and it wasn't much better 15+ yards. That said, the last 2 weeks are looking more like how he did the end of last year. If he can keep hitting enough passes 15-20 yards down field, it'll keep teams from stacking up too much vs our run game. To your point, the last 2 weeks he's something like 6/8 past 20 yards, with 2 TDs and an INT. The first month or so of the season I was saying I wanted to see him hitting more of those throws and I'm glad he's doing so. It's necessary if you're trying to pound the rock. I'm still skeptical he'll be able to do that against better teams but hoping he proves me wrong.
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8 passes past 10 yards. 6 completions, 3 TDs. I'm fine with 8 passes out of 25 down field tbh. Edit: note that I do not think this is showing deliberate incompletions / throwing the ball away.
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I know it's a great grade, and I get how PFF does their grading, that's why I had said "still" in there, as in "despite that being a great grade it still feels low given his production and how he did it".
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Hahaha that's great!
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Rico did have some misses in pass blocking and that may be where Chuba sneaks back in. 82 feels low for his rushing still hahahaah
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He's been given the most because he is relatively often open and to stop catches DBs have thrown themselves at him. I'm talking NFL open, not cowboys forgetting to cover receivers open.
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Indeed. Caleb Williams had 298 yards and 4 TDs. Jordan Love had 330+ yards and 3 TDs. Cowboys suck this year. Only Jalen Hurts week 1 and Bryce Young had fewer than ~300 yards against them. Still happy with Young but perspective is valuable here.
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I agree Bryce played well yesterday. And I've said all a long what we were missing is more 15-20ish yard completions (which Bryce was I think 4/6 on yesterday, pretty good). But the fact we don't go deep more often is very clearly not because of our receivers... TMac routinely beats his guys deep. When he isn't crazy fuging open, Bryce has often missed him. And when he or others are crazy open they do need to slow down for Bryce. I am less concerned with 40 yard bombs, personally, and we have the personnel to threaten 20 yards down field regularly, so hopefully that continues. Now Bryce escaped pressure very well and found the open players. He spread the ball around well. I'm happy he did well and I hope that is more about him and our offense than the Cowboys.
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C'mon man, this is a weird take. Nobody is expecting Bryce Young to play D. And he played well today. But there are QBs that keep their team in the game whether they get career days from RBs or not. And I hope Bryce can be one of those players, and that is not too much to ask from a QB. As to the final Miami scoring drive, Rico started it with a 16 yard run and Etienne did have a 12 yard rush in the red zone. It was good complimentary football.
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I know what you mean. I keep hoping Bryces timing will improve and our guys won't need to basically wait to catch balls but at least he was able to find the right player many times this week, and often down field. He seemed more confident than earlier in the year and his game resembled his successful games last year, hitting 15-20 yard passes multiple times
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Eight of Bryce Young's nine wins have come off game-winning drives
mav1234 replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
If this team ends up over .500, this board is going to be crazy with playoff talk haha -
4 to 6 games into the season, do we know this teams identity?
mav1234 replied to Dragoon11's topic in Carolina Panthers
The young guys clearly believe, and damn so they fight hard! -
Cowboys should replace their GM... Let their best defensive player go and now they're suffering for it. (;))
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Eight of Bryce Young's nine wins have come off game-winning drives
mav1234 replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
The Jets are precisely the kind of team the Panthers lose to, no matter how well they're playing lol. Hopefully canales comes out firing and puts them down early. -
I do wish he would give a player like TMac a chance rather than sitting when what he wants isn't there, but he's cleaned up the turnovers and overall I think he made good choices with the ball this game.
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Some day, he'll need to carry the team for us to win. But that time isn't now and he made the plays he needed to for us to stay in the game and ultimately get the W. Rico deserves tons of credit for the last two games but Bryce, especially today, took advantage deep which is what a lot of us have been wanting.
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Eight of Bryce Young's nine wins have come off game-winning drives
mav1234 replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
Jesus Christ that's terrible -
Eight of Bryce Young's nine wins have come off game-winning drives
mav1234 replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
Today was a great win for Bryce. A decent overall team, he had to fight through the entire game. Definitely one of his best performances of his career, arguably his best imo. -
Nah man, I'm happy for the team and for Bryce. But let's not act like the Cowboys are some good defense. They give up more yards than any other team and give up 30 ppg (29th in the league). But Bryce was good today, particularly at avoiding pressure - the one thing the Cowboys D does well.
