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Not the worst feeling, but bad. If we had barely held them off in the 2nd half it would be worse. The fact the team showed resilience, even if it was against an undermanned Texans team, mitigated a bit of that pain.

Id rather have not had the injuries... But only idiots said this about Cam. Darnold is athletic enough to make those plays so let's fuging take it imo. That said, I wish we'd kicked that DG in the first half instead of running Chubba into a brick wall...

For the franchise... I agree. Darnold is going to be put to the test at a level we didn't expect much sooner without CMC. So far, the 2nd half suggests he may be up to the challenge. But we will see when it's against a better team. I believe he can do it. For our prospects this season, tho... We really need CMC to maximize the offense.

17 2nd half points without his top weapon? Yeah, damn. 6 total TDs, 1 INT over 3 games... I believe he's over 900 yards too.

actually insane the mugging they're allowing in games lol

He needs some reps catching passes out of the backfield, but definitely played hard, especially making his mark in the 2nd half.

Darnold proves he's more than just someone capable of "dumping off" to CMC.

Darnold with 900+ total yards, 6 total TDs and 1 INT... And the 2nd half without CMC. Really answered some questions. Where the hell is Anderson, tho?

lol Darnold

Rhule needs to learn to take the points sometimes for sure. TD ices this - hope Darnold and the O can do it.

lol of course Slye fuging nails that one ffs.

as long as its his first start, guaranteed to have a career game!

Still a full half, just need to flip the script and play a complete first half instead of second. This team can score without CMC, Roby and DJ are plenty talented. Just need to keep them involved... and uh, maybe limit the drops and keep someone in to fuging block

Need an offense that can score more than 7 points a game. Also need a fuging coaching staff that recognizes the value of points. We should have kicked the field goal instead of sending our backup RB into a blender. wtf.

I don't understand some of these playcalls...

Brady's terrible red zone playcalling rears its ugly head. Yes sucks we can't get a yard with our RB, but we can't. Stop running up the fugging middle

I'm one of the first to tell you Darnold looks much improved from his days we ith the Jets, and I'll defend him against people saying he looks bad of mediocre etc... But it'll take more than what we've seen for me to get me even close to as excited about his play as I was our last franchise QB. No knock on Darnold there... Just want to see more first. It's only been 2 (promising) games.

You can't say "he's going to look better because he's got a better team, but will commit as many turnovers as before, despite the fact he hasn't so far, but also he's made a couple of mistakes so he's going to definitely make as many mistakes as he used to despite not doing so so far!". It doesn't make sense. His first and 3rd season he had 5 and 4 fumbles, over 13/12 games, btw. Averages are pretty dumb when you've got observations that deviate substantially from others.

So in his 2nd game as a Panther while working to learn a new offense and create chemistry with teammates he looks like a dude that once he became a veteran, consistently won plenty of games for his teams... Why is this a bad thing? Dude is 24. Alex Smith didn't even become the guy we refer to until like 7 years into the league. If Darnold already looks like a 7 year vet that is actually a good thing.

the "CmC check down" stuff... Man, plenty of those throws are not check downs... They're designed plays to get CMC into mismatches... How can you simultaneously say "his turnover rate hasn't gone down" while saying "2 games worth of passes isn't enough to show his turnover rate has TRULY gone down"? It doesn't make sense. Either his play in these two games shows something, or it doesn't, it can't be that you get to ignore his int% while pointing to his one int as evidence he's "the same." If Darnold gets to a total of 27 turnovers it'll be significantly more turnovers than he's had in the last 2 years by quite a bit, despite a start with fewer turnovers, and with a better cast... Very unlikely.

Anyone that thinks from his first two games he looks exactly like he did on average on the Jets is either not watching him on the Panthers, or didn't watch him on the Jets. Yes, the supporting cast is immeasurably better. But he is making smarter, faster decisions than most of the plays I saw while he was at NY.

Darnold is a tier below Cam for certain in athletic ability and arm strength, but he's also tiers above Delhomme... As to the stupid decisions, through 2 games, Darnold has an *extremely* low percentage of INTs thrown per pass. I don't think we can assume he'll play as poorly as he did with the Jets there.

I don't think we have a QB in our history that is a good comparison to Darnold, assuming he continues to improve... Frankly, his natural gifts put him closer to Cam than Delhomme in terms of raw ability, but he's obviously nothing close to Cam either. It is just that Delhomme wasn't Delhomme because of arm talent or athleticism. Darnold has a rare combination there, although not once in a generation or anything of that sort like Cam was. I think Darnold's leadership ability is heavily underrated by us fans, based on how many times he's been made a captain already in his short career, so we'll see if we get more hints of that as time goes on. That's some of the missing piece of what kind of player he will be for us.

I think some of our fans just want to see fault where none lies... It is really hard to argue Darnold isn't spreading the ball around when it warrants it. Teams are having to choose where they want the mismatch to be. Going to CMC in a mismatch is a big boon for us. Yet DJ has more yards receiving than CMC, and our WRs have a total of 341 yards in 2 games. Given we've also had two TEs active in the passing game, this offense IS more than CMC through the air. Darnold is finding the right target consistently, IMO.

This is such a stupid take this early. There is no point in reading into measures like that based on so little data. Are the Panthers really playing bad teams or are they making teams look bad (probably one of each)?