mav1234

this is nonsensical. Its about the talent that is there. The Panthers didn't believe in Fields and that is fine, but I've been watching him for a couple years and think he is significantly better than what some of his critics are saying. We'll see I guess, hopefully he can do well with the Bears.

I'm only frustrated because Fields was still available, and we absolutely need to get QB right. But, its hard to argue with Horn in the range he was drafted and CB was a huge need.

horn... wtf.

ugh. I bet we don't take Fields. Watch it be a fuging CB.

Taking a bit.. maybe negotiating a trade... but I think we should take Fields unless we're getting a second first rounder out of it

if we take a CB here I will lose my mind

if we pick Jones, I'll be fuging livid, but I readily admit I'm no talent evaluator ... Really hope we go Fields.

if Sewell AND Fields are on the board and we take Jones...

true, most of Brady's stuff is just being sore/whining, as opposed to Rodgers that is actually apparently awful.

I think Brady is rumored to be a bit of a dick. But nowhere near Rodgers level.

There's a huge difference between treating a player like a rookie and saying a player *is* a rookie. The treatment is imo to refer to the fact this is a clean start and they aren't judging him on his past failures.

That's basically what they always said... Darnold gave them flexibility so they didn't need to reach this draft, which I took to mean trade huge assets to move up.

Call me crazy but I care more about results than whether Tepper is telling his football people to draft a QB. If we end up with a franchise QB after this off-season, I really don't care what hand Tepper had in that. It's pretty clear he isn't directing every move or take. If he is for this particular case... his team, and if it works out, good.

Right, but he finishes the video with Wilson and Fields are very close, Wilson is just more win-now, and that Lance is "way below these guys." That isn't Fields-falling-to-32 as has happened in some mocks lately... Just seems crazy. Mac Jones isn't even in that conversation of top 4 guys in that video, heh. edit: I don't actually have issues with Lawrence being #1, or even Wilson moving ahead of Fields overall. It is just that Fields appears to have taken a nose dive to where he won't even be top 10 anymore, which seems a bit wild, given there apparently will still be 4 QBs taken in the top 10.

processing speed, vague work ethic questions, and "character concerns" spoken in hushed tones about some incidents at a previous school he attended? where have we heard this story before?? I'm surprised Fields is considered streakier than the other non-Lawrence QBs given he's had fewer bad games than most of the non-Lance QBs. And I would take Fields' 2019 over Lance's 2019 given competition etc anyway.

Although it is certainly possible his lawyer at the time was lying, the waiver supposedly did not have anything to do with racism and both he and Fields made public comments about that.

I'm not as excited by Darnold as I would be Lawrence/Wilson/Fields, but he gives us draft flexibility and he is a low cost, high potential option. And given the likelihood all 3 of those are gone, we have a chance to add a supremely talented guy to our team in the first now. Honestly, Darnold is a lower risk option than moving up for one of the QBs I like. Seen as a multi year rebuild, this was a smart move that doesn't force the team to reach for anyone. Specifically on the player, Darnold wasn't good in New York, but he did show flashes and he has the tools that can't be taught. In fact his biggest problems are things that can be coached. Doesn't mean HE can have them coached out... we will see.

Fwiw that was a low point in the Huddle. I do think winning will cure all woes so I'm hoping this year does so.

Homerism leading up to a draft and regular season can build hype and interest depending on how blind it is. Certainly at this point it is less annoying to read.

Fwiw, remember this is a multi year rebuild and if Darnold flops, we will ideally be in good position for a QB next year. I trust our management to make smart moves to improve the QB position. A safe management would have looked at Teddy and stood pat because he is better than the unknown in a lot of ways. But we want to win and will make moves to do so. I expect we will actually add another QB too, but it may be a vet to compete. Unless someone slides a little... Another reason I like the Darnold trade: Darnold is less likely than Teddy to keep us in QB purgatory. Unlike Teddy, he will push the ball down the field and he will try to make plays. That is likely either to mean big gains for us if he is making smart decisions, or more losses if he isn't. More losses would mean a better draft position next year.

Although I agree with this, there's reasonable disagreement, and there's just bitching. And while I support any panther fan's right to bitch here if they want, I do get tired of it. It is a big reason my readership is spotty outside the season. Also, not saying you are primarily just bitching either but there's a few examples in this thread, haha. Not suggesting mods change anything because censorship would be worse I think. Heh.

Winston has unquestionably accomplished more to date than Darnold - which isn't saying a ton to be honest. But Winston had a MUCH better team around him his first couple years... and Winston has a higher INT% than Darnold at 3.4% for his career, whereas Darnold is 3.2%. And really they both had similar TD% numbers their first couple years in the league (Winston - 4.1%, 4.9%; Darnold - 4.1%, 4.3%)... Of course, Winston has built on that (4.7% for his career), whereas Darnold cratered with Gase last year and that hurt his career numbers (3.7%). How much of that is Darnold vs Gase? Hard to say. Limited sample of Tannehill is pretty crazy to see Tannehill's decline once Gase took over, and subsequent recovery once he left. I hope Darnold does the same, but I am at best cautiously optimistic.

Darnold is a gamble, but a huge gamble?? We're talking a second round pick next year which is basically a third this year. That isn't a huge gamble at all. Much less of one than either reaching for a meh QB at 8 or trading assets to move up. As a huge Fields fan, though, if he's there I think we should take him at 8. I doubt he's there.

I certainly thank the Texans for saving us from ourselves. Heh

Highly doubtful that is true, given he has more TDs than INTs in his career and only one season with more INTs. Not sure he will be the all star we all want as our QB of the future, but it is extremely likely he plays better next year than last.