mav1234

Honestly, I get the cam stuff more than anything. In a simplistic way he does fill a pressing need (yes it won't ever happen for multiple reasons lol). As Panthers fans we don't have a ton of good memories to draw on, lol. You gotta understand he's the best player this team has ever had and the way his departure was handled was a botch to say the least. He's still looking for a job and we are in need of a QB, so fans are gonna bring it up.

Think they'll take two of their previous starters instead? We got a couple we could send back to them...

Corner the market!

Maybe. I want to see more, but it doesn't seem like the poo show it did. Zane has been really good. Returners don't scare the poo out of me when they touch a ball anymore.

Stafford was and he couldn't rescue the lions. What he's doing in LA is... Impressive heh. I knew he was good, but he is looking unstoppable often.

Caserio is gambling a bit that these legal issues get resolved next year, I think, but I think he's right they'll get more for him in the offseason if they're resolved than they will now if they're not.

I think it is far and away the most talented secondary we have had, and that is despite being weak at safety imo. Really remarkable how good our corners are. If Henderson and Taylor both develop we should have some crazy flexibility and probably some very nice trade capital depending on Jackson and Gilmore.

Have to admit theres nothing quite like a bunch of people whining about other people whining on a football forum

I get we realistically are unlikely to make the playoffs. But if we had a coaching staff that legit started tanking at 4-4 with our star offensive player about to return, I would say we need a new coaching staff. Now isn't the time to tank... Which we might anyway, but yeah.

Jones just taking too long to find a place to go, after an amazing D performance is undone by a couple of bad plays? Heh.

It's crazy the Giants are keeping it this close...

Wow ... Offsides negates an int and a blown call and the chiefs flip the field lol

Jason Garrett seems like a really good OC.

Feels like the Chiefs just woke up.

Just not in the head, please.

On the year he's still been pretty good. But the last 4 games (well 3.5) he's thrown 5 TDs and 6 ints. Still the dude is incredible and they'll bounce back next year

The thing is, all our receivers were dropping balls all training camp .... Even from Grier and PJ. Why do that because you dislike Darnold? Did these guys really quit on the team before a single game?? And some of these drops are thrown perfectly... And, we had one of our highest number of drops vs Houston while we were still winning... No doubt some drops are on Sam, but some clearly aren't... I'm really wondering what's going on with our receivers coaching.

Its crazy to say but I think our 2019 QBs could make this a playoff team. Of course I don't think we can win much with them but yeah... We've fallen far. That said...CMC changes the offense entirely... IF ( I know. I know...) He stays healthy, I think we can win a couple of our last few games and at least be entertaining occasionally on offense.

DJ was weird last year too... There were a lot of comments about DJs effort last year and he actually dropped as many balls as he did in his first two years combined (and he basically doubled his drop %, it wasn't higher usage). I wonder if there is actually something on the O side of the ball, some way they are practicing or something, that has some of these guys down. Teddy had a lot of negative things to say about the coaches and I always assumed he was just being a sour ass, but now I wonder...

Terrace is fine for a rookie imo given the OL and who is throwing him the ball. Won't be many opportunities to go to we #3 when the OL is a sieve and qb can't see the field. DJ was also having trouble with dropsies last year. It's worse this year, but he went from a couple awesome years to being pretty bad. It's actually why I think something else is going on than Darnold being at fault (he is for some, but not all)...

We've actually won the time of possession battle in many of our games... Even vs Dallas... What we need is an offense that can put up TDs, too, and a QB that can be relied on once in a while to carry a game or half.

Exactly what I think.

On QB: LT to protect our attempt at a reclamation project, or QB to learn behind him and be therein case we aren't successful, were to me the smart choices. I do love Horn but yeah. On Sam vs Cam:. I did notice some weird similarities in the commentary about Sam as cam (like his first year or two... Lol, by the time he was in his fourth year he had done so much more than Darnold has) and you're right about the weird flip in posters defending Darnold that uses to critique Cam.... But I think these days even those of us very optimistic have given up on Darnold, we just don't see a point in shitting on him in every thread (not saying you do). Honestly I'm just hopelessly optimistic about every Panther QB for longer than I should be lol.

I liked Fields but I think a lot of teams saw something that gave them pause... I don't really know what though. I think he can become a great QB. Not sure it'll be for Nagy, tho.

I think he could become an OK backup for a decent team. But he's far too inconsistent to be a starter.