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This isn't accurate. I don't think he is a top 10 pick. But based on people that judge QBs far better than I can, he has a first round grade.

Good luck with the job and hope it works out for you. I'll miss your little nuggets but totally understandable. Still looking forward to your general draft content of course.

Picketts line was good, and he had one very, very good receiver... But he looks very good moving around and has imo an underrated arm on this board. I don't hate him in the least. My issue is that I do not trust Rhule to properly evaluate him because of the college connection...

I mean you're right in this post but let's be real, Morgan didn't go to Temple or Baylor so he never had a real shot.

A lot of what I've heard is that Pickett was basically fine and polished, had one bad day, but the hand questions just amplified between having trouble on a rainy day and refusing measurements. Willis improved during practice but he's sooooo raw, especially in reading defenses.

Tbh, drafting a bad qb in the first isn't the death sentence it used to be. More and more teams are willing to move on after a couple years, during which time other aspects of the team can grow too. I'd still rather not draft Pickett at 6 but oh well.

Watch us trade down to get the picks to trade for him lol

Pickett is such a disgustingly fitting Rhule pick. What disturbs me most isn't actually that we might take Pickett it's the obvious reason why - the fuging college connection.

No kidding. I'm worried about just how raw Willis appears to be but apparently he is doing very well at taking to coaching and direction at the Senior Bowl. Given what appears to be a very high ceiling I think he's my preference at 6 if not OT. So we will probably draft Pickett. Or a corner. Can always use more corners.

He actually hasn't been a disaster tho... He had a very bad day 2 in the rain but had a good day 3. I think Willis has more potential, but the Pickett narrative isn't entirely what I've been seeing from media sources like below

A myth by fans? Didn't Proehl admit Smitty was a toxic player near the end?

this is hilariously fitting.

Probably, but one never knows...

Flores.

fug yes please please please Christmas may come late to Panthers fans after all

7 year plan. It's a good one. Basically, he leaves year 3 after moderate success for more money and maybe if you're lucky you can make out like Baylor with an even better coach! What's not to want?

Rhule and Apple can both suck and be terrible. But only one of them is getting ready for the most important football game of the year, so...

Trading down in a draft where there's no valuable QBs is significantly harder. Hopefully for us either an OT we want or a player someone else wants to trade up for drops. I'm just skeptical of the later (but there's enough decent OTs the former seems realistic).

I think everyone on the draft a QB train explicitly means "if there's one with a high first round grade there". Like if by some miracle all 5 picks before us are QBs, the value wouldn't be there (probably won't be if more than one is taken before us tbh). The same is true of the "OL no matter what" crowd, imo.

If Rhule let's McAdoo have a heavy hand in the QB evals I'd be more comfortable. But I don't see Rhule taking a QB since he needs to save his job.

Between this post and the idea of rehabbing Daniel Jones I realized I do still care about the team based on the awful wretching feeling I just felt in my gut. Mostly because both those scenarios make so much sense.

Oh for sure, although I think that Brady was in over his head and didn't have a true NFL mentor here, which fuged him too imo. Last year we saw consistent problems with getting plays in on time, same problem in 2020. And while Cam (and tbh to an extent early Darnold) did improve on red zone effexiency he still has vexing situational playcalls. Time and time again, Rhule failed to respect how much actual NFL experience matters... I think Brady can be good with a good mentor.

Ehhh. In the five games immediately before his firing, our offense averaged barely over 17 ppg... We were on a hard course downward and while Nixon was not better, Brady at the end wasn't good either. After Minnesota the wheels came completely off save for a brief reprieve from Cam's energetic return. Excluding Cam's ARZ game, the offense averaged 11.8 ppg after Minnesota under Brady...

The Panthers do not have an expensive QB room. Just posting these since I think there's some misconceptions about what expensive salaries and cap hits for QBs are. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/quarterback/ https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cap-hit/quarterback/ Cam vs Sam... I mean I think Cam brings more to the offense... But I don't want him back because it's hard to watch Rhule destroy him through poor management, bad OL in front of him, etc... I don't know if Cam can be a full time starter anymore but I don't think we would be able to find that out on our poo show. I tend to think he could be.

So I actually agree Rhule needs to stick with his process and Darnold alone, but that's because I think he's such garbage I don't want ANYTHING else wasted on him. But realistically, this entire team benefits from adding a veteran QB to push Sam in training camp. Ideally it's a very low cost short term rental vet. It should have been done in camp last year. It isn't just about Darnold either, good vets bring a lot to practice etc, but Rhule doesn't value NFL experience because he can't fathom improving on The Process. But instead we stuck with PJ so uh I'm glad the process can keep working.