mav1234

I will wait to see what happens on game day. I don't mind a coach blowing hot air towards fans. But there's no way he can think he looked good... Unless he thinks Bryce is the problem

We root for players that clearly try and that show some potential. They don't need to be super stars even. Of course, when they show early potential (Coker) or are already making a major impact (T-Mac) we are pretty damn excited about them. And many of us made excuses for XL last year, but this year... Man, he's just not it.

I think the vast majority of QBs only thrive or die based on their situations. But some are capable of making everyone else around them better in a way they redefine, or at least elevate, those situations. And some of the former group also just never will really have "it" when the moment matters. So far it feels like Bryce either needs the perfect situation or he just doesn't have "it". I suppose we'll get the season to see if that changes, but to call me skeptical is an understatement.

Playing for pff.. nobody open, good decision A+ grade on that play

Arguably Bryce's first TD and maybe second TD drive were. He did less than nothing until the game seemed surely out of reach. Then, when it looked like things could have turned the corner... He caved when it mattered most.

It's only 2 games. Give it time.

He isn't the biggest busy but the trade is one of the worst of all time imo. Not sure where it ranks, but it's pretty fuging bad.

Any chance they'd take Bryce with him?

Canales isn't great, but I think he's doing some work with our non-XL receivers. I do think Bryce limits him but he also gets into moments of idiot playcalling where he seems to forget his QB is smaller than he is and has to heave any ball beyond 10 yards half the time.

It sure looked like Chuba was open in the flat repeatedly. He may not have been but it looked it. He absolutely was on the intentional grounding but I'll grant Bryce wasn't going to be able to throw towards the other side of the field in that circumstance.

He acts a bit like a player that has already arrived, heh

He had a couple great plays moving out of the pocket or moving up in it in the 4th quarter, before that last drive. he just seemed to lose the mojo he'd been building... Just made it all seem like a mirage.

I know you talked up his after catch abilities but I thought that he looked so smooth today after the catch, I was really impressed

I recognize he didn't have a ton of time but he seemed to be indecisive on that final drive. One of the reasons he found success on the previous was how fast the ball seemed to come out

I still think the defense looked much much better this year than most of last year. The offense / special teams did them no favors until the 4th quarter IMO.

Worth noting with his 100+ yard game, he also drew a game-extending holding call. He had a hell of a game and I don't think it is an exaggeration to say he is already our best overall player on offense (though Chuba is, imo, still a beast)

We don't have just 1 good receiver - we have 2. Renfrow looks decent. He's getting open. T-Mac is better than good, IMO. And Sanders was good at finding holes in the middle. As to the middle... That's great and all, but then we ignore the very clear pattern we're seeing in his play. Will he turn the corner? I doubt it. But maybe he will, he'll get a chance against a division rival soon.

that's the thing, this game wasn't even against a particularly good team, heh

and recover an onside kick, and play Kyler Murray every week (and/or another QB that'll chuck up a gift)

I was really hoping after last season he had turned the page. He does look better than the start of last year, but then again the offense is much improved around him... and he basically gave the game away in the first few minutes.

XL is definitely a worse player, but was taken at the end of the round. What we traded for Bryce makes this so much worse. But this thread isn't about Bryce being the biggest bust ever, lol. I did evaluate Bryce honestly - but when it mattered most, he didn't come through. That was true last game, it was true at the start of this game, and it was true at the end of this game. He no longer has teh excuse of not having a good WR, T-Mac is clearly incredible. The fact this dude needs perfect play from the people around him t o have any success is also ridiculous. Let's be honest about his play, not just in a handful of 4th quarter drives with the game seemingly out of reach. edit: Bryce is arguably the worst starting QB in the league over his career. No small part of that is his inability to deliver when games actually matter.

XL should be able to make those plays... But yeah I agree... I dont know why he didn't go to TMac more. I'd probably just feed him all day if it's 1 on 1 1.

Suspiciously it coincided well with when the score got very close, too. What's the excuse for his play in the first half?

Terrible start to the game, meh first half, Bryce started to play better in 2nd half but mostly was taking what the D gave him, until the 2nd to last drive when IMO he had some great throws. But when the pressure was on to actually take the lead, he folded pretty hard. Indecisive with the ball, took multiple sacks/had an intentional grounding, got bailed out by the Zebras a couple times

I don't quite think that is the case, I just think Bryce stopped being decisive with where he was going with the ball. He was throwing into tight windows on the last drive, too.