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"Cornering" the market, haha

The fact we aren't hearing "no his hands are like 9" " from his camp tells me he has very small hands. How small, dunno. Didn't make him more prone to fumbling in college but could in the pros. Honestly tho I think a lot of that is overblown.

They may be unusually small. Not sure it matters for fumbles. Hard to say. I thought NFL balls were slightly larger but that may be old info. Pickett had 7 fumbles and 1 fumble lost in 2020. 3 with 2 lost in 2021 Lawrence had 5 with 3 lost in 2020. Burrows had 4 with 1 lost in 2019. Herbert had 4 with 1 lost in 2019. Sam Howell had 4 with 1 lost in 2020 and 8 with 4 lost in 2021.

I dunno I think rules changes are making this style of play (or at least an extreme emphasis on it without a dynamic QB that can carry a team,too) outdated and ultimately unable to win it all minus rare circumstances, like reanimating the corpse of a Manning brother.

He just needs a competent OC and he'll be great

Wow, insane!!!

To be fair, Minshew actually had a pretty damn good year stats wise (and for the most part play wise), and he was benched a few games to secure the #1. There's only so much the QB coach can do with somebody like Mike Glennon etc... They turned to tanking a bit into the season too, didn't start out that way. Plus this team is such a dumpster fire, it's lucky anyone with significant NFL experience was willing to jump in.

I no longer care enough to hate this team.

If 1300+ yards and 10 TDs is figured out... Sure. Otoh maybe it was also Manning's slow decline. McAdoo also gave up play calling in 2017 - the team didn't really improve without him calling plays. He was a bad HC all around. Better OC and offensive assistant more generally so hopefully that carries over here.

Mcadoo did suck playcalling as HC but it had nothing to do with OBJ. OBJ was not figured out in 2016. He was highly productive. The offense wasn't great by any means, and I wonder if some of that was leaning on the D so much... Their rushing O was terrible 2016, but passing was still good. OBJ was injured in 2017, so... McAdoo was in over his head with both playcalling and HC. As just OC he seemed good, but he had excellent QB and Wr play.

As bad as Rhule is, there's enough talent on this team I expect them to win 4 to 5 games. We may pick top 5.... But I doubt it will be #1 overall...

Believe so, but he may have improved in that regard. Also may not be as much a problem for an OC. I'm actually surprised because this is the kind of move that could actually save the offense, although I expect it won't happen (him taking the job or being able to rehab the shitstain we call an O). Certainly better than the other options we've heard about, anyway.

Maybe Montgomery sees the process...

Wow, THE Scottie Montgomery? Glad they weren't kidding about about rock stars.

Not unless Rhule does very well next year we aren't. He has to make the playoffs or I bet he's fired next year (barring something like an injury to the QB torpedoing a great offense)

I mean, the few times the defense needed a stop in the 2nd half against decent opponents it just crumbled. And it often crumbled despite momentum from ST or the offense. So... Yeah. Average sounds right. Still far ahead of our offense but that isn't saying as much as it seemed midseason...

Why read an article when we can drum up controversy...

Oh I agree but he Actually is better than what I expected. I was pretty sure we were going to get Nixon or someone Rhule knew from college that had position coaching experience just because nobody at all in their right mind should want to be here next year lol

He also loved Rosen so a bit hit or miss there tbh. And not wanting Darnold at 3 is different from not liking him... Seems he saw him as a bigger developmental project than the Jets, that's all. Honestly he isn't the worst possible candidate because at least he has a ton of NFL experience.

I doubt legit NFL coaches want anything to do in with our poo show.

Darnold had terrible decision making when he had time. He has trouble reading defenses. Maybe if he had more time to do it he could get better at it but I doubt it. Our OL was one of the worst in the league in pass block win rate. The idea that any of our QBs had tons of time is wild.

Other than a star OT, it seems much easier / more consistent to build the OL thru rounds after the 1st than it is to find a good QB, too. I do think we need to invest in the OL this offseason but ideally this is the last time we will be in the top 10 for a while, so if Fitterers guys are sold on one of these QBs I do hope we take them. I just worry what Rhule would do to a rookie QB. Dude is such an awful coach he might ruin whomever it is...

Ah you mean in last year's draft? I mean, other than Tom Brady, what playoff teams are running with a QB not taken in the first round? Dallas and Philly? QBs often take time to make as much of an impact as OL. Not always, but usually.

Er? By what measure? This isn't true. In general OL is critical but so is QB. It's technically easier to build an OL outside the first round, harder to do so for QB. But I'm not great at evaluating QBs to know if any of these are worthwhile. Unfortunately it looks like our staff is just as bad a I am lol.

None of those three were can't miss. Burrows was a one year wonder, Tua had HUGE concerns about durability, and Herbert had injury history / leadership questions. This doesn't mean those criticisms were valid but they were not can't miss prospects.