mav1234

Rhule was right, analytics are the future! Wow! Just think how good this team must be that only 18 opponents have scored more than 17 or more points. . Clearly amazing coaching

Aspects of the roster are definitely way better. The assistant coaches are way better. Nothing is demonstrating we are a better team, though. Unlike last year, it doesn't seem like it's taking teams a quarter of the season to figure us out.

Always excited to see my Panthers making history!

You know, if we'd come out and thumped either team, neither loss would bother me. But this feels like the last couple years but we skip the first quarter of the season and get right into losing. Edit: didn't even need to thump, just win convincingly and not be desperately clawing on to a small lead in the last seconds....

Early on, I took the multi year thing as more about "building a team that is consistently winning" takes years, rather than winning at all, so you make moves every year to bring in pieces to help that year/longer, so each year is about winning now. That's because one year of success doesn't guarantee more (just like one year of failure doesn't need to), so you always need to be getting better... Ofc Tepper may think it takes 5 years to have a winning record for some reason, who knows. Maybe he buys the Jay Z I will give Rhule something, he's built a level of consistency with his program. Unfortunately it's consistent below average performance.

The team is unquestionably worse than when he took over. The modern NFL has fast turnarounds because good coaching makes up for roster deficiencies. Bad coaching exacerbates them.

The money is a sunk cost. He brought Rhule here to build a winning culture and team and if that isn't happening and continues to look unlikely as it does now, then he's only losing money (such as from fans etc) and more importantly a chance at success by keeping him. If he's committed to winning then it doesn't matter what he's paying him really.

That doesn't make sense. The refs aren't what makes the NFL a great sport. Every sport has shitty calls from their equivalent of refs. Don't disagree on crew vs individual. Ref grades aren't public are they?

I mean, this sounds likely. Rhule is a shitshow and to say he's tied to Snow is an understatement. Everyone can see how snow's defense functions, and it fits these comments. If it's all true I hope trpper steps in sooner than I expected...

Was gonna post this. The only reason I wouldn't be surprised for us to keep Rhule until Dec is because mid season coaching changes virtually never yield improvement, and I don't think we have a clear coach in waiting. That's also when we have our bye. I think the timing depends a lot on what Tepper thinks of our assistant coaches.

Cool stuff, thanks. I still worry about our Run D, but this post has me slightly more optimistic about the game overall.

wtf is the context here

I'd be fine with him. I suppose it depends how often a coordinator calls plays, what role they have in the team, etc. It feels unfair to loop them all in with Brady... Especially when these guys we usually are talking about have multiple years of NFL experience

yeaah..... Really disappointed... I think it's more than just our coaches, but I suspect they aren't helping.

Yes for sure... WR has been disappointing to me because I expected more out of that group the last couple seasons... I am hoping our young guys find a way to step up but I'm not holding my breath.

I think for QB, RB, and WR, it is too early to tell, but in general it is very possible we are better at all 4, but only by one or two out of ten in each. QB I think is the easiest one to say we likely are - yes Mayfield is going to be worse on some days than Teddy was good on some days, but the ceiling for Teddy was much lower. I think WR we are too, but that may be me undervaluing Samuel versus thinking we could possibly have a 3rd receive in Smith or Saunders. RB may be worse, hard to tell. TE is a push - still nobody worth mentioning. edit: Baker's worst season is arguably pretty close to Teddy's two best seasons, so I'd say Baker is an upgrade for sure.

I'd like to see all these guys with a competent coaching staff, but I think by the time that happens, it may be too late in some cases. Can't help but feel the longer players are left with Rhule the worse they become.

All of the what ifs, it's just one game, etc stuff ignores that this is Rhule's third season and his teams never look prepared for anything. Wins feel good but unless we change the entire direction of the game in this scenario, I don't feel any better about the season by squeaking a win out against a depleted Browns team.

Won't care until Rhule shows he can coach or he's fired. I think we all know which of those is more likely to occur first

Personnel this long into a HCs tenure can't be divorced from the coach themself. This is the D that Rhule/Snow built...

Not like the Browns only advanced because of penalties. The D has been soft for years. Our coaches on D belong in college...

Personnel can't be blamed 3 years into a head coach. It's scheme. It's fuging scheme. It's Rhule.

Still to be determined with Baker. Teddy best overall Sam had the highest potential... Biggest highs and hope based on early games. Baker looks like I expected a retread to look, bht still very early

They start talking about best teammate (which they say is OBJ btw) at about 52:20 about distracts, rumors, and teammate quality. edit: They really, really make OBJ sound good (and Mayfield as well)

I think the "but it was weird" was in reference to "...but Baker was a good teammate too, you know I hung out with the offense guys too and..." (obviously paraphrased). I don't think he meant it was weird that Baker took him to dinner / was weird himself, but the SITUATION was weird (which seems likely based on Garrett's comments) edit: Yeah, the end he talks about "those relationships" being f'd, and he seems to be referring to the wider team relationships, rather than his with Baker.