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If a new coach does worse for a couple seasons we go after another new coach. Just how it goes until you find a good one.

He did a fine job but I don't necessarily just want a HC that does a fine job. I think Wilks can make an argument for his hire but I'm tired of mediocrity. In one of the worst divisions in football in a long time he had a shot at the division. He didn't make it. That means a lot IMO.

Ok but he actually also had a TD that game... Dalton also has significantly more NFL experience which is valuable in a bridge guy imo.

Why can you take away 3-13 but we can't take away 6-6? Wilks may not be as bad as his 3-13 record but why do we assume he will definitely be his 6-6 record? When he took over our D nose dived. I think he's probably closer to .500 than .321 but let's not act like his floor is .500 ball.

Minshew could make a lot of sense with our interest in Steichen... I mean I think I've been called a Darnold superfan, and I just don't see much point. His experience has been with (for the most part) Gase and Rhule. It's actually why his career could be vastly different elsewhere if he gets a different, new coach (it probably won't be lol). But it's also why there's better guys, like Dalton, Brisset, and Minshew, that have been in various systems etc and have had some of their own relative success at times. Darnolds best season was this stretch and he capped it with the worst game by a Panthers QB ever (stats wise)

Haha fair. I mean even idiots get lucky sometimes so here's hoping...

I don't know why we are sure we are getting a .500 clip Wilks when his career winning percentage as a coach is .321...

Im sympathetic to that but I'd still rather he try than settle. Tbh outside of saying no to Harbaugh (which may be about total control) I'm relatively happy with his pool so far.

I don't see the point in bringing him back when there are likely others with more experience to serve as a bridge out there for similar costs, but if his familiarity with the team etc means we get him cheapish and the new coach feels he's a good bridge to a young guy, whatever. I just don't want to see him for more than 5 games. He falls apart after that in a bad way it seems.

When you kept it going I thought you were serious lol

Know he can win? I mean, we know he can go .500 against some of the worst teams in the league. He had some good wins but we lost when it mattered most. Why the hell would any of us want to settle for solid but unspectacular right now?? I'd like back to back winning seasons. If Wilks interviews well and gets the job I'll support him because I'll believe he will have sold Tepper on a new identity that includes more dynamic offense. I can believe he was severely handicapped there this year. But his defense is just as problematic.

Either you do extensive reading yourself on this sport or you keep copious side notes on things you saw two decades ago. No judgement on either of those things. This is a weird take from you given you present information like you've done plenty of reading/research on a topic too.

It really doesn't, especially given how OSU performed against Georgia. I think the idea was "Michigan is fools gold" but Georgia just took their game to a different stratosphere.

I'm willing to let Wilks interview and give a plan of how he's going to transform the offense AND defense. And while I personally think he's the wrong choice, I admit that I could be wrong, and maybe his plan will be so good, Tepper will think he's worth giving another few years to. We'll see. But we really, really need new coordinators.

Absolutely, we will - and, I don't mind Sam in that role, I just think sometimes it is better to move on. And I think it would be for him, and we have as good or better options.

The Huddle is behaving VERY weird for me today. Keep getting weird freezes, unable to quote posts, etc. Not sure if my ad-blocker is acting up or what.

I could see an owner moving on if they limp to a similar record with a different QB. Maybe you're right and they'd get another year after that, but I think it is a huge gamble to move on from a QB most seem to think is improving.

I absolutely do not love Minshew but it is hard to argue that he wouldn't be an upgrade over Sammy D. In 33 fewer starts, he's scored only 11 fewer TDs. His career int % is EXTREMELY low, lower than Sam's is in his limited work this year. I'm not saying he's a long term answer, but as a backup? yeah, an upgrade.

There's a dozen free agents that are better than Sam available as a temporary or (shudder) long term solution.

Here's a few that either were or will be available as FAs and likely have a future as a backup or bridge QB (not all are available, but point remains) Gardner Minshew Mitch Trubisky Teddy motherfuging Bridgewater LOL Mike White Andy Dalton Jacoby Brissett Then current starters that were backups/likely will be backups : Taylor Heinicke Daniel Jones Then we've got the starters-as-bridges, like Jimmy G... https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/quarterback/?ref=trending-pages The reality is, Darnold has put together a downright atrocious career his first four years. He had a "meh" but fine year this year as a backup.

Eh, why bother? We know what we're getting, even at it's best. he probably has a better shot himself elsewhere of earning a starting gig, and for us, he'd know he really isn't gonna have a shot at anything long term even if we do bring him back. Also I clearly said it was my opinion/what I wanted, not what I predict the team will do. I'm not stupid enough to try to predict what NFL people do, lol

If Darnold had even had something close to a decent game yesterday I'd be more on board with that, but man, I just don't see the point. There are going to be other backups that have higher ceilings, lots of journeyman vets that could start the entire year without looking like garbage while AR or Levis develops behind them, etc.

A few of us have... some place... Or I'm pretty sure a couple of us have said "you can use the assets you got from trading the #1 to move up next year if needed" I doubt it. There's virtually no chance that whomever goes #1 is a superstar QB next year that lights the league on fire. Rookies just don't do that. If your draft pick does well AND Fields develops it doesn't matter. If Fields fails but you have lots of pieces to build around, you reload next year. If you take a QB #1, you are committed to them for at least 3 years...

Seems a bit weird to throw in fumbles versus fumbles lost and exclude rushing TDs. He's more like 9 TDs, 5 turnovers, 1250 total yards in 6 games. Still hardly impressive. He's good for 3-4 "decent" games, at a backup level, before he falls flat on his face it seems. I guess that is why backups are backups and not starters. Time to move on. Maybe he'll find success elsewhere. Maybe he'll be out of the league in a few years. But unless he's coming back for pennies as a backup / bridge for 4 weeks until we put our new rookie QB out there, I don't want him on the team.

I'm only seeing plain text in your post you linked, fwiw. But maybe that's something on my end.