mav1234

Can't fire a first year coach mid season, so what's he going to do? Reich won't give up play calling.

With any luck we can ditch both of ours soon...

By convincing yourself some shitty test is more important than play on the field.

This is my big concern and fear. And it's not just 40 yard shots where he doesn't seem to drive the ball... Just a lot of concern for his arm strength... but it looked better in college so I'm hoping it's actually hesitancy/confidence that is somehow translating to his ability to drive the ball and with time he'll adjust

Yeah, they appear to be. I do blame Reich for a lot of our offensive struggles (in part because I fundamentally believe the buck stops at the HC, but also cause his play calls blow). I'm not giving up on Young but I think it's acceptable to be skeptical.

Saying it wasn't all negative is true, but many of us were sold on a #1 pick that was a dynamic playmaker. At best, he's been a conservative caretaker (and not a particularly great one at that).

CJ would still be good here, but probably not as good. However, Reich seems the real problem...

Pretty telling that the "you'd all be seeing this differently, then wouldn't you?" Moment is a back of the endzone pass to a TE from the goal line. That's the kind of play I expect a QB to make... not BYs fault it didn't happen, but it doesn't address my bigger concerns with him. Not saying he's a bust but he really looks to have physical limitations on his play. Now if he hits those two long bombs in earlier games? Yes that would. Until he can consistently (as in once or twice a game if not more) punish teams deep, the offense will struggle... deep doesn't even need to be 40+ yards... How many passes did he even attempt that were 20+ yards yesterday?

Perhaps, so stop giving him "kill" plays that are screens. He's not calling totally different plays from what the coaches want.

And that QB was Andy fuging Dalton, who isn't Mr. Armstrength. This is all deeply concerning for the future of this team. At least we don't have to worry about languishing in mediocrity?

It isn't just a BY issue. It felt like every other lass was a screen, which isn't BY refusing to go deep. If the coaches don't trust him to stretch the field, tho, he shouldn't be playing.

I expected the shift to 3-4 would benefit burns... it doesn't seem to have much.

Stroud has had a historic start. How many QBs in that caliber of start didn't pan out? Not saying Bryce is a bust by any means, but Stroud looks like the real deal. He may have a slump at some point but there's no evidence he won't be able to have success long term.

I don't blame Bryce, and don't think we can judge him yet. The coaches are the problem. I may not "be sold" on Bryce yet, but he's a rookie and we aren't helping him

BY isn't ready. But they can't afford not to play him if he's healthy. Reich and Fitterer need him to work out or they lose their jobs. This isn't a playoff team with Dalton anyway.

Our play calling is actually abysmal at the goal line lol

Don't worry, Woods and Horn will be back in time for our playoff push! ()

Shoulda put "Fitt's", as in his first rounders.

wow see I always knew that our all-star coaching staff would eventually attract top flight talent!

Damn dude, sorry to hear that. Feel better soon!

Absolutely. Hurney at least had incredible first rounders... I have high hopes for Fitts but the jury is out...

Often if someone says "but this rookie needs time to learn them game" during the draft process, they're talking sitting half or full seasons. Every single rookie, even "Pentium processors" or whatever it is BY was billed as, will need time to adjust to the NFL game speed. Some do it faster than expected, some slower. BY is showing evidence of being NFL ready in changing plays at the line etc. But he's also shown he isn't yet ready for the speed of defenses. My bigger concern is if he trusts his arm enough to get the ball into tight windows. With this receiving group, it's just what he'll have to do. Way too early for me to think he's a bust, though. There's been glimpses of talent here and there and I suspect we'll get lots more.

We actually had a conversation before the trade up about how the good thing about Reich was we probably didn't need to over reach this year for a QB since his system can work with a lot of QBs. Then we went and traded away our best player on offense and the future to do just that, so...

Wilks as an HC was not particularly aggressive, no. I also did say my opinion changed on preferring an OC. Wilks did an admirable job with what he had. I wouldn't have been upset with Wilks either. I wanted Steichen, but was impressed by Reichs staff. So much for that.

I'm not sure he deserves to be paid what he wants. Frankly he looks a lot like he always has to me - good for a sack or pressure here and there but not really a consistent disruptor.