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Same QB... Makes you wonder.

Lol Bryce is so bad... Defense actually settling in and he just blows and blows.

I'd argue TMac looked better than Bryce. XL probably blows, though. But who the heck knows.

Not only that, 2 WRs drafted in the first including one taken as the first WR off the board. I'm gonna keep doing what I did last year: give Bryce credit for his good games regardless of how the team goes and I'm gonna hold it against him when he plays poorly. He IS holding the offense back.

This would all be a legitimate grype if the offense been able to score a touchdown before *checks notes* 5 minutes left in the game, lol The defense blows. Bryce has to play better. He got the credit for the wins last year (and near wins that the D lost) so I'm gonna judge him by the same metric. It'd be different if he looked good, hell, if he even looked decent in a losing effort to start the season. Did he even have 100 yards passing going into the 4th???

We have an offense stacked with draft picks and an OL stacked with incredibly good free agents. We have a top 15 back at minimum (imo Chuba is better than that). We have the top WR drafted last year. Yeah they'll all make mistakes. Yes they all look bad sometimes. But Bryce is just not helping his teammates. Even in his good games he would sometimes go through stretches of pretty bad play. At this point I think XL isn't very good, but heck maybe if he bad a different QB throwing to him he wouldn't look so bad this year... Because basically everyone not named Adam Thielen only looks meh with Young behind centre.

To say Bryce isn't exactly killing it... Man... He's so inconsistent he is atrocious. Since coming into the league he is the worst starting QB. Yes he had a decent period at the end of last year but so have countless other busts or mid tier starters. If he doesn't turn it around immediately it'll show last year was a mirage. Our drafts have been going so heavy into the offense the last three years, and our FA has too, it's pathetic where it's at.

The defense was not good by any means but the two units aren't doing each other any favors. I don't think Evero is particularly good and it appears he may be allergic to youth. If it wasn't for the fact we constantly hear about how our drafts/acquisitions are his idea (and then they fail to pan out) I wouldn't hold nearly as much against him as I do, especially because of spending. Fwiw, the offense is atrocious and it starts at the head of the unit, but many of us have also been very down on XL as well.

CJ Stroud also had one of the best rookie years of all time, and yes he had a downward trend last year that should be concerning but isn't cause for benching. BY had a decent stretch of games and then poo the bed. That's it.

Absolutely. It's a mix of things, and it's deserved. Which sucks because outside of their play on the field I like both. But at some point their play needs to reflect team investment. And it isn't.

I don't disagree but I'd rather we at least see Hooker for a couple/few games at some point to see if maybe he's a backup in the long term.

Plenty of people were complaining about the D in various posts, too. Just it was specific players, like most of us complain specifically about BY. Wallace, Scott get plenty of blame...

I'd elevate Hooker first and give him a couple games. Maybe Dalton for a few weeks, then move on to Hooker. Edit: your point tho is why a few of us really wanted something different at backup QB... I don't need someone to win, but how the hell did we end up keeping one of the few NFL QBs with as weak an arm as Bryce? Ugh

Give him one more game. Maybe two. If he plays similarly to how he usually does... then, start the QB carousel because you can't afford to trade mid season for anyone good but you can't just let play that bad be excused, no matter draft position. And it's not like the answer is on the roster, so we'll be losing out either way. But we will get to see if canales is the QB whisperer we dreamed of, or just another piece of fools gold. Then in the offseason you trade him for whatever you can get. Which... Won't be much. BY is cooked.

Absolutely. The defense was by no means good but if we had a competent offense, we give them a shot too. Good teams don't need to limit an opponent to 13 or less to have a shot at winning. Sure, it helps... But still

The defense is not great but it is possible to win games when your defense gives up 26 points, especially when they gave up like 9 points total over 3 quarters.

I don't know how someone could watch that game for 3+ quarters and think that Bryce wasn't a problem.

Look guys if everyone around him would just be perfect, Bryce would look average before the game got out of hand!

At some point this season I hope I can say Bryce Young is why we won a game that mattered, and not just that he isn't the reason we lost a game. This is a third year pro, not a backup, and we've invested a ton into this offense... Including him.

I don't think we really need to go that long. I'd rather see if the third QB on our roster could be a backup or something. Highly unlikely he'll bring us any wins. So let's send Bryce packing if things continue to stink this bad. We need a real QB to find out about Coker/XL. Tet seems set as a good to great WR. But I get what you're saying too. Id just rather not check out of another Panthers season at game 2.

I'm fine with explaining away a few bad plays from a player because the opposing team makes a good play / playcall. Or even saying the real failure on a given play was not the QB but the wrong route etc. But man, it's Bryce's third year and I expected better than this. Just tired of the inconsistency within (and between) games. Everything has to be perfect for him to play consistently well.

Ah yes, the Carolina special: Right playcall with bad execution.

What I care about most this season is getting an answer on Bryce... So far we're getting one.

Meh...

This stuff is completely wild. Thanks for posting... I do wonder what it would have looked like in the discussions between Stroud and Young but at very least we seem to have a complete professional as our QB that is doing what he can to get better. It's ridiculous how he's the total opposite of Williams...