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I don't think the preseason includes just games, though. He also failed to really challenge either of our shitty QBs in any real way, either in media reports or generally. BUT given the HC, I basically give him a pass there. Although I think he has a high hill to climb I agree on paper / some college film he has most of the tools. But the NFL is a different mental game than college. So we will see. Edit: also see your point on injuries but when you're injured that often in 2 seasons it does stick for a bit...

Same. People get too personal around here. No reason to be, none of us know the future and we're all just guessing. We can disagree and be reasonable about topics like the future of a player IMO.

Corral has significantly more question marks than many of the 2nd tier QBs.... His durability seems to be an enormous problem, so he will have to really outplay guys I think. It isn't his first injury in his career, and he looked bad in his first preseason. If a rookie looks even just as good they're more likely to start IMO. I would be astonished if we don't draft a QB since Fitt has said he thinks you go for a QB every draft before. It won't liekly be someone penciled in as a starter off the bat but I think they're likely to enter camp considered above Corral. He'll have a chance to prove otherwise, sure.

Yup, lol

Nothing public yet.

Corral will get a chance in training camp in the loose sense, but the cards are stacked against him, between a certainty in new QBs in the room, a likely new coach (and a certainty on the offense side of the ball), and potentially even a new GM (doubtful tho). He'll still be on the roster and get a chance to wow people, but given the injury, it is highly unlikely that he will have any time to really develop and he was honestly terrible in his first preseason. I hope for the best for him, but the team won't plan around him.

Everything about Rhule did. Even after year 1 it looked maybe true, with some of the unexpected contributions, etc. Ugh.

I hated that decision too, but I also understand why Tepper wanted to see if the Third Year Leap was real. He kept his hands off the team and waited. I also wonder who he was consulting in that decision. There's a lot of unknowns about it all and I hope Tepper learned something from it, but not so sure.

Eh. Rhule was a very hot name that year. He wasn't the only one interested in Rhule, just the only one willing to give him so much money... Not like he hired a random college coach, Rhule was billed as this great talent developer etc etc

The personal attacks on players or other posters in draft threads suck. AR looks like he has tremendous potential but I've not watched enough college football this year to comment on consistency for him, or really any player. I'm just excited to see who we take. We are definitely adding a QB some place in the draft...

I agree with this. Coaches are crap shoots of sorts. I don't blame an owner for missing on one. But Tepper dragged The Process out when it was clear it wasn't working...

Link please? I heard his not resounding endorsement but that is not the same.

I agree on the OL difference. Not sure how Fields develops here for the last couple years, though... Hard to be sure.

I'm not knocking fields at all and agree the value of a franchise QB is thru the roof. But I don't think our D rankings are indicative of Horns value. For instance, the Bears rankings on offense aren't great - from a PPG perspective they are 19th. That isn't on him tho and he's shown a lot of great progress IMO, I'm just illustrating why those rankings to evaluate a player aren't really fair. Agree that it's our time to get a franchise QB in the draft though

As much as I like and wanted Fields, Horn is exceptional and makes a huge difference on the field.

5 year plan, lol. I didn't wish Rhule any particular ill will before this but fug that dude.

Same. Reality is if he plays well someone will overpay for him tho. Fine with him as a cheap backup. But there are a lot of potential cheap backups out there....

Yeah this is the smart thing to do.

And he's very likely to, at minimum, be on his second OC and QBC... And maybe his third HC... He has near zero advantage system wise even if Wilks is retained... Because McAdoo needs the door either way.

PFF grades don't always pass the eye test, but sometimes that is a difference in what we are seeing and remembering vs individual play results... Part of it is highlighted by the BC comment - a lot of us fans will remember specific penalties and ignore / forget others. That definitely was the case for me in the game. I also generally find per game PFF grades are ridiculous but across a whole season they line up with my feelings.

No, I don't. Wilks needs someone innovative. Maybe Reich.

"Remember that time in 2021 when Darnold had 3 straight 300 yard passing games? If only he'd had a real OL...."

I blame Jake... I will always remember when Matt Moore gave me a Vikings slaughter for my birthday back in 2009, haha. Edit: I think that was actually a Double Trouble pop off too... Been a while...

I would say the point is it's been a while since we could talk about positives from the QB position other than a couple plays in complete isolation (whereas Darnold had a decent day overall), and with as miserable as it's been around here for a while, at least there's that. But yeah, being the best QB on our roster is somewhat meaningless right now. He does have several games to change that, but as you said, we've seen this script before and I also feel like we know how it ends with Darnold...

Home wins are great but at some point we need to do more than just win at home... I'm not on the Wilks bandwagon. It's been so long since we had an NFL coach, I see the allure. But I'd rather go with an offensive HC for once.