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He needed a little pick me up, it's been a rough week+ for him.

I think people use game manager in a few different ways. So I think it's always hard to have these conversations lol. One is contrasted with gunslinger and refers to the style of play. The game manager isn't flashy but limits mistakes and is highly consistent. They are reliable, and that isn't to say they can't make plays to win games, but their general style tends towards taking what they can get rather than risking the big play when it might mean a critical turnover. In this context, it isn't really a comment on the quality of the player. Another way is contrasted to a franchise QB, implying that the player may be good enough to win some things, but can still be upgraded. In this context, implies the player is worse than what an organization would ideally want if it were to consider the QB position settled. Another refers to a player that reads the game and plays according to what's necessary. This is often just said as managing the game rather than as a game manager. Brady is famous for managing games VERY well, but save for a few early seasons it's hard to fit him into other definitions of the term. One final way is kinda a mix of the above and is used to refer to a QB that isn't going to win you a Superbowl. Definitely a comment on ability. Often on play style, too, implying a degree of risk adverse play.

Bryce was historically bad. He had like four drives total to point to over an entire season where he looked like a competent QB, and none where he looked elite (or hardly even as good as Dalton on Sunday). But... Would we get more for him in the off-season? Would we possibly be in a situation where playing him is good for us (aka if Dalton is injured and we're not looking competitive even with him)? Tho maybe if Dalton keeps balling out, BY or his surrogates force an exit.

No thanks. Dude is over hyped and over paid. Maybe for less as a backup but this move would set us back. Which means we'll probably do it

tbh, can't judge anything on offense in the first two weeks, and it's hard to judge the D given what they knew was on the other side of the ball. Definitely excited about XL. Hoping Thielen gets right soon tho, he's been so consistent and solid despite everything around him, and has previously shown great chemistry with Dalton last season.

That and it's much easier to play with a purpose when you trust the offense to move the ball...

What exactly does Bryce do so well you could build an offense around his unicorn abilities? The dude just doesn't have it right now and I doubt he ever will. He was a mistake to draft but he was supposed to be super pro ready blah blah...

Wild what an offense can do with a competent QB...

Our org can be terrible and a bad landing spot... And Young can also be really, really bad. I've not seen a 1st round QB show so little since... Man I don't even know. Even last year, it was clear he was at least a part of the problem on offense. He started all year and was worse than even backups. Who gets so many chances? Even Pickles (not a 1st rounder) only played so much because of an injury to Moore. Whatever. If blaming the org makes Miami or someone else willing to trade for him, hell yeah, it's all the orgs fault

Bryce has had to be protected at every step of his pro career. He's just not it. It's sad, because he seems likeable. But he just isn't it. Our org blows but so does he.

I mean, Reich would be our coach and we'd be a darkhorse playoff cntender if Stroud was our QB. instead, we'll all be betting on if we can even finish the season with 1 win. A good QB can carry a team. A medicore QB can do enough to win. Young is so bad that he is making the team around him worse. Nobody believes in him. Nobody should. He isn't even gonna make it as a backup.

Calling Bryce a quarterback is a little bit ridiculous.

I don't care who the couch is running the offense, when your QB caps out at 5 yard passes there's no fuging point. Bench Young

I've never been so uninterested in Panthers football... Ugh. Bryce Young makes everyone around him worse.

This seems like an oddly good decision on NFLNs part. He wasn't a great head coach ultimately but he knows defense.

Keep pounding, Mr. Scot! Wishing you the best!

So you're saying we got HC figured out?!

Wouldn't be the first time we actually found a gem from a minor league. Nothing wrong with additions like this, hope they work out. We need bodies for camp either way.

Decent video - Bryce did have some great throws with anticipation.... But most of the time, he was just atrocious footwork wise, and I really do think he'd have been better sitting because he doesn't have physically gifts to lean on. Hopefully we've addressed the rest of the offense and he takes a big step but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

Yeah I understand now - tbh I didn't follow Horn at all before the draft so I didn't know if maybe he did have injury history

Yeah, I just have a hard time making the comparison cause Horn may seem fragile now but wasn't in college. Wilson, tho... I share your concerns.

Did Horn have a significant injury history in college? I didn't think he did but may be wrong

Although my Panthers enthusiasm is near an all time low, I actually think the draft (and FA) shows a pretty clear team direction related to power running and quick passing. I would have liked a C too, and I don't love XL, but it's very clear that they really believe in him and our trades for once look good overall... Dunno, if not for last year and who we still have at QB I think I'd be pretty pumped about this off-season.

Solid depth, knows the system. Seems a good acquisition. As to college tape... Yeah I just don't care anymore. Hopefully BY turns it around but I'm not holding my breath.

What was the trade last year? Or do you mean two years ago?