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That's probably true, but his averages last year were quite poor. A lot of that is routes and usages but I don't expect him to get say double the targets given the nature of our offense, either.

The stats do not suggest that Theilen is going to have a bounce back year with #1 targets. He basically had his worst season in every statistical category last year and his averages were all down and have been trending as such for a while. I'm happy with the signing but it's because he's a vet and will be a good mentor. I can't imagine him having a year like 2017/2018.

Yeah I mean if we were interested I'd say we would be second of those three. But there's gotta be more teams... All depends on the asking price.

Depends on what Hopkins truly thinks of Watson but I could see the Browns being sleeper contenders for this year. And the Patriots are always solid. We are trending up but I think the Browns are more ready now.

May decide he'd rather have a pay day if no real contenders are willing. We're only associated to drive up his value since we don't have a clear #1 imo

Glad he showed up in a category but I'm not going to read too much into this. He flashed in his second year and I believe we finally have a coaching staff that can develop players (really hard to know exactly how much Rhule hurt or helped different positions). Watching games, though, it felt like our receivers often struggled to get separation when it mattered. That could be scheme etc... Time will tell.

I felt similarly to you about Chicago's OL, and in games I watched that is how it seemed. But... https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34536376/2022-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings-top-players-teams?platform=amp Check the pass block win rates. I think it was as much/more of an issue with WRs not getting open, based on these stats.. though I do think analytics are sometimes misleading since all it takes is one breakdown for pressure.

Great post, helps clarify our current situation on defense I think. Not huge fan of trying to extrapolate such limited numbers of sacks to increased usage in that linear way, but great points all-around and on what we really need.

that is awful

BY doesn't look like Cam. But he doesn't need to be Cam to be a great QB. He' not being drafted to be the next Cam.

Here's hoping to us both being wrong and showing why us fans aren't in an NFL front office, haha

It seems it would but it might not. We will see, I guess.

I think if someone trades up with the Texans / Arizona AND selects someone else we will learn a lot about overall how Stroud was viewed. Otoh, Houston going for a different player alone isn't as big an indication. Just my opinion there.

Why do you think so? I'd think they'd get less reliable as smoke screens intensify etc. I don't know why this dude would lie like that. He didn't need to. He could have just said he can't comment on scores.

The problem with the 18 score is there is no single score to get... Was he 18th percentile? Did he get an 18 on one part of the test? Etc... The test maker said that there isn't one score and you can't trust sources giving one score to a player. That said, clearly Stroud did not do well on the S2 at least relative to the others.

This is contrary to plenty of other leaks we've had on scores (particularly for AR). I don't buy it. CJ obviously did not do particularly amazing but I'd bet he's much better than 18% or 18th percentile.

It is very likely his score is not amazing and so they've chosen to ignore it. His true score is known to many teams. This won't influence a team either way in all likelihood but it does poison fans. Kinda shitty

This happens often / many drafts and it's just gross. Someone is trying to cause him to drop to increase their chance of landing him... Just really shitty.

Because despite the hype, this is just 1 test. We don't know how many people scored very well and sucked, either.

That's why I said it was accurate. But if you're trying to argue not to worry about injuries, choosing CMC as your example is not a great choice, even if the nuances of the situation make sense. Regardless of the reason for his injuries he was barely on the field for multiple seasons for us.

I love Luke, but using CMC as the example of how guys can know how to get hit to avoid injuries - while accurate - doesn't exactly soothe injury concerns entirely, lol. Anyway I'm more concerned with how long he held the ball in 2022 and his arm strength than i necessarily am his build, but I trust our staff and they absolutely know better than me so I'll be happy if he's the pick.

This absolutely matters. It doesn't mean you discount it entirely but it's important context to his result.

I'm skeptical there is any standardly applied test that you wouldn't improve on taking multiple times. It wouldn't necessarily be that a player is learning the answers themselves... Rather, learning the best way that works for themselves in taking the test.

The only part of this that doesn't make a ton of sense is why we were willing to go to #3 if we wanted Young all along. He was never gonna be at #3... But these are dynamic situations and perhaps they didn't expect an opportunity to get the first QB on the board until it turned out the costs were nearly the same...

Please. Young looks likely to be the pick but it isn't because Stroud is used to coach... Or because of being from a single parent house... What the fug guys ...