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At least he interviews better than Steichen

Oh wee mayne

I'm hoping its something like his timing is off and they're asking BY to do too much so he isn't in sync with the offense... because... eesh. His arm did not look good last night.

It's too early to say he's a bust for sure. But I also don't see how these two games inspire excitement or a ton of confidence. BY got little to no help last night from play calling or our supposed play makers, but his play itself didn't inspire a ton of hope. He had a good final series, and a few nice plays smattered throughout the game, but he was consistently off in terms of accuracy and seemed to play somewhat scared. My biggest concern is that his arm strength is worse than advertised and the "elasticity" that was supposed to make him elite when improvising just hasn't shown up. Hoping the receivers / play calling steps up and we see improvement in the coming weeks... not giving up on him yet... but I remember clinging to single drives from Clausen, Allen, Teddy, and Darnold (yes the last two were already vets so it is definitely different). So, I'm being a little more critical now.

Ugh, such Rhule vibes there...

I do think he could still turn it around, so I'm hoping he can start hitting the deep balls. I'd rather lose because he threw a couple INTs but also connected deep than have a day like today where the game just drags out and he plays so cautiously...

For sure on CJ. He was my preference. But I got on board with BY in the week kr so before the draft... In college, BY moved around more and was more of a playmaker, it seemed, than a game manager. And it's not like dudes weren't tell at Alabama or in the SEC... but the arm strength was way more a liability than I expected expected

Hate this for him... really hope the report is wrong.

CJ was definitely above BY, but I read it as CJ being "strong to above average for the NFL", but with incredible accuracy / feel for timing, and not the greatest on the move, and BY being "average for the nfl" but with elasticity to have the same velocity throwing from various angles, off balance, when scrambling, etc. Like top end was below CJs, but not by as much as it definitely seems to be so far...

CJ - I felt he had all the tools and was so impressed vs Georgia. Plus, I wanted him because I felt he had a high ceiling but also was generally the guy that was the most likely to have a good career. Both AR and BY were huge risks in completely opposite ways.

CJ didn't even have some super arm. He just has a good arm. AR was the dude with a freak arm. BY wasn't supposed to be this far behind CJ in arm strength according to scouting reports I read...

I don't know if his height is an issue or not, but I'm more concerned with his arm strength right now. Whether he doesn't trust his arm/what he sees, or just can't make the throws, he isn't able to stretch the field the way he needs to.

For me it's mostly the arm strength given the way he likes to play / played in college... There's glimpses of the mental game and scramble / play making, I think, but if he can't use that supposed "arm elasticity" to deliver the ball in those situations, it hardly matters...

My biggest concern is that Bryce's arm looks ridiculously weak, far more so than I expected. He was supposed to have average NFL arm strength and he just looks... not that. Maybe he's trying to put too much touch on balls? I don't know, but in the first half a couple of incompletions would have been complete with a stronger arm to fit into the brief openings he did find...

Can't say I have much to hang my hat on so far, but it's only two games, so here's hoping his next one he turns the page.

Young is not looking good at all so far. Hopefully, they find some rhythm but he just seems unable to get the ball downfield at all, whether due to our receivers, play calls, or Young himself... can't tell. Fwiw, our defense seems completely unprepared for Hill... blech.

Nullified on a bad call, too

The concussion appeared to come on a TD run... I unfortunately agree with you... it's the Cam conundrum, tho. You draft a guy for those physical skills, you don't want to just give up on them

NFL refs are a joke. Ridiculous the calls they miss and make.

Concussion:/. Or at least in the protocol

Talk of Stroud not reading the field well doesn't seem true, at least not in this game.

For sure. We can support and like all three young QBs and hope they all succeed. Total overreaction to think we made the wrong choice

Appreciate that! Just my thoughts. It's totally possible he'll never be aggressive in the NFL because he may never feel comfortable enough with the game to be so. I hope that is not the case, but plenty of rookies end up playing scared at the next level. So we will see.

There's a bit of a difference between safe and cautious. At times last week he was cautious but in college he certainly played aggressively when he needed to. He was a play maker by extending plays etc and I think we will see more of that as he grows... I remember some pre draft videos where he was fitting the ball into windows that would be called risky.

What's to develop? We already know he's a failed draft pick since he didn't put up 100 yards and 2 TDs in his first game. Why settle for mediocrity?!?!?!!