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I asked him for the last 5 weeks.

If he puts up top 10 performances the rest of the way, even with his first 2 he's gonna finish pretty high in pff overall. I'm really glad that the guys were able to get a win after such a hard-fought game. They had comeso close, it's good to see a breakthrough. I hope that they can carry that momentum and play spoiler the rest of the way.

Average of 11.8, which is still better than I expected over that timespan. That's really impressive tbh.

It is. And it doesn't matter anymore because it's a sunk cost. We can't keep him around because of his draft cost, nor should we hold it against him, imo. Yes first round rookies get more leeway than others but he still has to earn it now.

Is there a way to show the last 5 games or something? I know Bryce was terrible vs Cowboys but he'd had good grades vs TB and KC that might offset that.

True. I was more referring to his target selection (and accuracy). But you're right that XL making that catch changes a lot.

Maybe "as bad as" Mingo is unfair to Bryce but "also terrible" still applies haha. Either way, it was an awful situation for any young player at any position, let alone QB. Now we've got a promising end of season that we can build on if we take care of business and keep improving the last two weeks. I agree on the progress timeline. I'm not saying he won't progress at all either. There's been some real promising work by Bryce the last few weeks. I just want to see that continue. I like competition so I hope Canales finds a couple of guys he thinks can push Bryce without investing too much and we build D heavily this offseason.

Thanks for posting these!

If you watched the games last year you'd know Bryce was as atrocious as the players around him were. It was a total poo show of a season. That's why we went into this year investing so much into offense for him.

In this division, yes I do. There's probably 10-15 QBs that could. I think we'd get bounced immediately due to our terrible defense though lol Edit: I'd say have us in contention late in the season, rather than having us comfortable in. I still think we'd need to go thru the division rather than a WC which is easier but would probably still be questionable right now.

We aren't ignoring it. We also aren't ignoring the Dallas game, the start of this year, or all of last last year. He won himself a spot on the roster next year and being the presumptive QB1 going into camp. That counts for a lot given where he was.

Are you saying Mahomes has questionable arm strength? Because that's nuts. Saying he doesn't have Allen's arm strength may be technically true but you're still talking about one of the strongest armed guys in the NFL. The idea he doesn't have elite arm talent is wildly inaccurate.

I'm not sure why people care so much about what we traded for him. Past is the past. Only question to me is if he can be that QB that gets us back into the playoffs and further. I'm not sure he is, but he's played well enough he'll keep getting a chance to prove that.

Canales is absolutely operating within the limitations of his players, whether Bryce or receivers. It did seem that with Dalton the game plan had more verticality.

Once Conner went down our D had a chance. We also had changed our scheme clearly to go after the run more, so maybe we woulda controlled him... But I doubt it, heh. We still had a couple of great drives in the 2nd and while one was all Chuba the other was all Bryce, so that felt good to watch. Still like you said, didn't feel like we were asking him to do too much.

We have one of the most expensive OLs in football, a very good running back, one of the best security blanket WRs in the league, and invested almost our entire draft in BY last year by going very heavy offense. We still need another WR but we can't afford to ignore defense any longer to get BY the tools he apparently needs. Maybe in future years

So I generally agree with you but I would say he basically did put is in position to beat the Eagles... That drop wasn't on him.

I said this before but I've felt since the Eagles game we've been having trouble with our intermediate/deep passing game, where it was one of his stronger areas vs KC and TB. I don't know if this is the schemes we've faced or if it's Bryce, but I saw several times he didn't seem to throw to open guys. Maybe on the film those guys weren't actually so open. His PFF grade is a little higher than I expected but not too much. It's deliberated calculated without regard to things like how failing to ice a game sends it to OT. Hoping the last couple games bring consistency. It's great having a QB that can get into the 90s in any kinda stat. As long as he keeps that Dallas game an anomaly since his return, it'll be a solid finish.

If the wheels had come off / the Cowboys game had been a return to bad, and we'd lost out to the point we could draft Sanders or Ward, maybe, but we need defense no matter what and frankly we'll be in a good position for it this draft. Bryce has played us out of a different QB. QB isn't our biggest need for once, but there's still a question mark on long term. We'll see how he does next year, hopefully with some competition in camp, ideally with an improved defense.

Didn't try many deep but got most of those he did

Young isn't great but nor are basically any of the dudes you highlighted... I mean... Wentz? Garopollo? This isn't 2017... This offense put up 36 with BY, lol. We need a competition in our QB room but let's not be nutty here.

Thielen dropped one.

Holy crap Drake Maye just has NOBODY lol

He definitely did

He's turned into quite a gunslinger