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Cam is ALWAYS supportive of his coach. He stood by Rivera at every turn, no matter how bad things looked. Right now, with rumors that Rhule's gonna be back for 2022, players can't speak on the record. But we can see it on the sidelines and in their play... And now from anonymous sources. None of these guys are playing like it matters. Rhule may not have lost the locker room in every way, but the players aren't playing hard for him anymore. Same thing happened to Rivera eventually, but it took much longer.

Words have meaning, and even all of these are clearly setting the team up to move on from Rhule imo, at least in some ways... If you read between the lines it was not a good conversation between them insofar as Tepper was very unhappy with the process so far.

Fitterer did pull off some good trades and I think our draft was high value when ignoring team needs. While ideally the GM is considering team needs, we don't actually know what Rhule decided were needs... I'm a little worried reports were he wasn't high on Fields since we really need him to hit the next QB selection out of the park.

With the off target passes going in every direction the defense knowing our routes won't matter!!!!!

If the top QB is there, I feel you have to take him, even if it means starting Darnold for most of the year behind a bad line and getting him killed. Of course where we are picking there may not be the right QB option, and so OL for sure then. Or another corner. Another corners always good. Can't have too many corners.

"Focus on the now and not your future" is not a ringing endorsement lol

Love the Fhule nickname.

It is very good national media is picking this up. Be embarrassed, Tepper. You were taken by the equivalent of a used car salesman. Some of us were, too. The difference is you can fix this. So fuging do it!

I'd rather have a decent, youngish offensive assistant (not Brady youny lol), but of all the retreads he might be my favorite.

Oh no I agree on that - this season is lost. Just can't imagine him getting a third year. Hopefully it won't happen...

Appreciate the time you're putting into these. It's hard for me to get up the energy to care about individual players but it has felt YGM makes a big difference in run support often, which gives me hope that he can become a good all around player for us. Nice to see some of his growth is born out on the tape... Ive been worries Rhule is ruining all our promising young players...

Doesn't make sense. If Tepper is embarrassed and upset why give him another year?

Right. Playing better than our current QBs? Sure there are QBs that would have. Actually won us a bunch of these games? Crazy.

I do get that but as soon as he started throwing the coaching staff under the bus in press conferences I think he is hard to bring back ... Well, and losing consistently. I don't mind moving on from teddy tbh, it's more disappointing they gambled a 2nd rounder on a busted QB and had the hubris to think they could fix him... Behind a terrible line. Ugh.

Ahh I know Tepper is pushing for a franchise QB, but if he really was pushing THAT hard, we would actually have Fields I think. Did you mean that Sheena Quick claimed that Tepper specifically forced them to move on from Teddy? Because that seemed surprising. I think that Teddy was not the answer, and the staff thought Darnold might be. The staff didn't think Fields was. I think he is clearly going with what our staff thinks rather than forcing them to go in his direction, or we'd have Fields instead of Horn. Btw, did Tepper make comments beyond the whole "you're constantly evaluating the QB position if it isn't a guy that can lead you to the playoffs"? I wasn't sure if he specifically called Teddy out (not that he necessarily needed to, lol).

Overall I like fitterer so far and hope he gets a shot with a different coach.

Ehh. I'd rather he spend money on who he thought was a good choice and be wrong than miss out on someone because he's cheap. He can, in theory, learn. Fitterer actually seemed a decent choice too. Hard to evaluate him given Rhule but a lot of his moves have had good value. FA OL was terrible but... That said... I don't mind him moving slow to fire Rivera and Hurney. Just hope he sees the trend this team is headed in and moves on from Rhule.

Sorry for your loss

What this board needs is more fat jokes for sure I don't think that post is accurate and regardless I don't think he thinks of Darnold as a true franchise guy, but it's worth playing him the last few games to guarantee our losses.

Spending money on a coach is only a bad thing if it's a Reason he won't move on. Not sure that is true. I don't really want the owner involved with things on the field frankly. I just want him able to move on from those not performing. He did so with Rivera and Hurney... Hoping he does with Rhule as well. He may give him a third year, which would disappoint me, but we will see.

Are we sure about this? Teddy threw the *coaching staff* under the bus. admittedly, he was right, but are you sure that this was Tepper stepping in vs the staff being done with him? I don't think we can blame Tepper directly for Darnold or a lack of Fields; if anything, what we've heard is he pushed hard for Fields.

The reports I read was that Rhule wanted to bring in his own staff, and the Jets wanted to force him to bring in Williams. Ofc, both bringing in a college staff and not wanting Greg Williams can be the same. Snow was always going to go with Rhule wherever he went... he isn't my biggest problem on our staff either.

Right. I actually think it's totally reasonable for a hc to reject a request for a team to have a heavy hand in picking a staff to the point of requiring a specific DC too. Otoh, I don't get our need to give him seeming control over personnel... Whatever tho, I'm still hoping for a new years miracle and a new coach in 2022. I know, I know...

Why do you think Tepper is responsible for us passing on Fields? Isn't this the opposite of media reports? Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy with him. Just curious what your rationale is RE: QB since it seems kinda the opposite until maybe Cam recently. This isn't really true tho. Rhule didn't want a specific DC the Jets wanted. I don't remember the exact details but there was mutual interest. Same with the Giants - in fact Giants just didn't want to pay him what Tepper was willing to. Rhule was a hot coaching commodity... We don't need to act like we were the only team willing to take a chance cause he didn't work out.

Gilmore is a priority; depending on the the defense our new coach goes with, Reddick too if possible. And Zane. Carter and Abdullah are good depth depending on their asking prices. Abdullah is good but not exceptional, but if he's willing to go at market price...