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It was a bad throw. Simple as that. Can WRs sometimes catch bad throws? Sure. Do we need our WRs to catch bad balls at a higher rate than other teams? Yes. Bryce’s ball placement has been bad for 3 straight seasons.

Saints had a ton of calls against them that last drive. Seems more like a flag happy crew flagging everyone thus far IMO

That’s a really bad drive to allow. Saints O had countless penalties against them and we still allowed them to march the field

Any team that can has chance to put hands on a QB is going to do it

It’s likely because of the location. Jordan alone the Panther sideline. Icky was stupid. Is what it is

Bryce is an Atlanta QB. PFR separates domes from retractable roofs. Pure domes, really dictated by NO is his worst work. Just like Atlanta gives the open roof setup his best work https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounBr01/splits/ complete Jeckyl and Hyde performances with 2 opponents. Atlanta and the Saints are the extreme variants of Bryce to date

Heck, not sure the Saints are worse without Kamara….last 7 weeks he broke 30 rushing yards once.

Packers lost to the Browns this year heck, in the disaster finale Rule season, with an interim HC, the week after we cut CMC and starting PJ….we whipped Tom Brady. good teams lose to bad teams all the time, good teams lose to meh/average teams every single weekend in sports, multiple times over. You can not be a good team and have good wins. Really bad teams generally can’t stack multi good wins but average teams can

well, would be a disclaimer on that, they could beat anyone w/ that strategy if a team doesn't show up or plays poorly. We could play the Rams 10 times and play well in most, they are going to beat us the majority of the time. Pretty big disparity in talent still exists IMO.

if you didn't watch 3 plays.....the D that played the Rams looked exactly like last years. I mean the Rams are a very good offensive team but just how easy that walked the field us on all game is a tad concerning. and the Panthers should 100000% roll out the same gameplan vs the Saints. All you need is Jaycee Horn not to give up 2 massive TDs and it's an easy ugly win. We know how the winning forumula. It isn't balance. It's leaning on the run and having Bryce make very few throws that matter. Hope he can when the few moments call.

and we won a game in the playoffs.....where our leading receiver was Fozzy Whitaker w/ just 39 rec yards. That feels like a 2025 Panthers type winning setup.

Yep, the board has amnesia to the weekly swings and declarations made. The same cast of characters has been talked about vastly different repetitively and you only have to go back as far as the game before the last one....and just keep repeating that pattern largely backwards. I personally feel confident that this team is not bad and it is not good. And while that is nice to get back to be out of the literal dumpster......I don't view this team as an average team w/ a puncher's chance. All average teams are of different molds. We are more the, if a really good team plays bad, you will lose to us variety. We aren't bad enough where you can get away with a bad day vs us anymore.

Yep, we really have risen from being so that you almost have to try to be that bad….to average (which the league is basically engineered for you to be average)….and I do worry that the brainiacs at BOA will do and treat that as. We basically have a team that doesn’t stink yet not a thing scares someone. Division being down also complicates real perspective. Bucs and Saints have the 2 easiest schedules to date this season and one team stinks and the other likely is .500ish off that advantage

yeah, with a 7-10 finish and borderline top 10 pick still being on the spectrum of finish possibilities (at still wouldn't log as the best Tepper season given we have gotten there in a different really weird season that didn't make a lot of since).

I'm waiting until this entire odd season plays out fully to really judge anything. Or maybe I should say, change what the last several years has locked into place. This is one of the weirder seasons I have seen and hardest teams to really judge. Its a very schizophrenic team/season. And there are 2 very different ways the finish could present and the board would view things vastly different from both ends of the at finish spectrum.

Bryce hasn't been pushing the ball downfield in a lot of wins. I think that's basically how lose games. Asking that of him. Not sure why people want to lose a game we can win with the proven hide Bryce most of the game and win ugly approach. and people sort of skew the Rams came up. he did not push the ball downfield nor was he asked in that game. It was the same thing as the Saints game. There were just 2 random 4th all or nothing plays that present take shot gambles

He is just so weird. Bryce Young makes no sense. I still don't like the word inconsistent because that's not it. I do think there is a lot of consistency in what he is. I don't know. and in theory, I think Bryce should be better indoors. But his indoor games are so slim even that is hard to figure out. As good as he has been in Atlanta, he is equally bad in the Saints dome.

and in a lot of games, executing and coming back has involved being willing to stick w/ the run a fair amount on 3rd down. I just think the formula is pretty clear at this point. Maybe 2 or 3 real throws. That's really all you are wanting to ask of Bryce and you want them to be favorable. Anything more? Generally makes it a bad plan.

Mike Evans looked a billion times better than I was expecting last night.

Yeah, the Sean Payton Saints were. That was driven off the players we and them had, coaches like Payton, fights and the games. I’m just saying, present day there just isn’t that feeling that exists for me with any team. No bad blood and no personalities or moments drive anything with the present day rosters. Feel like we are waiting for a modern day rivalry to naturally manifest somewhere.

People just emotional about a loss. Thats a winning gameplan. Jayce Horn of all people giving up those 2 TDs just imploded it. Which doesn’t make it a bad plan because who would have called that. a repeat of the last NO gameplan is a 1000% better a better gameplan than the 49ers gameplan. And the NO gameplan was the Rams gameplan and Packers gameplan

It’s weird, but I don’t feel like the Panthers have a real rival present day.

tonight has the trio in play. well, it's football. it's a division game. and it's TNF. which means I feel there is no way to predict what shows up on the TV tonight but I need Bijan to score me some big fantasy points

Horn doesn't give up those TDs and we would have won it ugly last time. How many times has asking Bryce to do some early lifting put us in big holes? I just don't see why. If the goal is purely to win. but overall, yeah, I don't like watching that brand of football. but yeah, I think it is best in theory to ask Bryce to be legit QB attack what the Saints are daring him too. But that's generally not what Dave does w/ Bryce. He knows. Every once in a while he forgets (SF) because of the annual Falcons game. But I do think their is a formula Canales knows is the way.

to me it's the simple. The D needs to keep being there improving version. Run game has to be steady. And outside of that, you need others not to implode a boring way to go about winning. but it's a hard way to win and you need a lot go right