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Maybe. Maybe he would have had a bad year and broke his leg. That would have hurt his future earning potential.

Don't know. Don't really care that much. I emotionally moved on from Hardy long ago

Carolina was punished in 2014. Hardy not much. Also Hardy and his agent elected to go on the list. Bc they wanted the paid season of vacation....

I don't know if he is innocent or guilty....wasn't there. I know he was found guilty. He appealed. Then he paid her off and never had a round 2. I wouldn't put my hard on money on claiming he was mostly likely innocent. NC quirky law has nothing to do with how I would view wager on someone in a given scenario

There are guys who never get charged with a crime that get punished. This isn't the legal system. We are talking about the NFL. They can and do punish guys for making them look bad....they don't need a court or a guilty verdict or even a charge

People don't like reality... I have learned that

What I am saying is mentioning the odd NC law doesn't really mean that much..... Bc if you have 2 players with identical scenarios and cases and one state my throw it out and one may keep the verdict. NFL when looking at it likely will treat both roughly the same if that one oddity is the only difference. Hardy is going to get a little punishment. No one should cry about it

Doesn't matter how the law works in NC.....not in this discussion. That only matters when talking about Greg's legal situation. We aren't talking about that.... What would happen in another state? Would it matter? Sure it would. Just b/c NC has a quirky law doesn't mean it doesn't matter for Hardy but would have someone in Calif that doesn't have that quirk law....NFL would look at both the same. B/c the only difference is the quirk....and that really doesn't matter.

I paid attention. I stick with my guess if I was forced to bet MY money on what happened.....and was told I would then have a video feed of went down after I guess? I'm guessing both them did stuff that would have gotten both arrested that night. and saying something stupid was basically a HUGE part of his charge.

no reason Hardy would sign a one year cheap deal. it would be dumb....and his agent ain't that dumb (nor is Hardy)

how is he likely innocent? He got a guilty verdict...he appealed...then he paid her off....then chargers were dismissed. IMO, the safest bet if you had to guess what happened....both he and she were probably both guilty that night. I think he likely gets 1-2 games for conduct detrimental.

Think she helps him co-host a cancer thing every year

DWill is gone. Personally I'm done with all 34 threads unless we are ranking our all time RBs or ranking the top 5 worst contracts in our history

Drafted and retire as a player shouldn't be something we want outside of 1 day deals where someone comes back. Unless a player walks away from the game early....everyone should be cut.

Williams and his people were so busy trying to make him being cut focused on something other than him being old, expensive and not very good......that they done messed up.

Not to get off topic....but you got any plans for a Kelvin or Stewart 2015 highlight vid?

It is refreshing to see a rare highly paid falling star go out like Delhomme. Most take swipes. Williams, Jenkins, Peppers, 89, Beason....most take some sort of jab back at different levels.

In fairness, he sought out that interview with the purpose of being asked that question most likely...for an audience. That is the likely reality of all of it. Yeah, you can't say anything is a fact....but he didn't stage this huge rare production just to say I got cut.

I don't think it tarnished his image...guys tend to struggle with being cut/released (especially the highly paid former stars). That isn't uncommon. You aren't gonna see a lot of guys handle it like Delhomme.....the 89, 34, maybe even Beason slipped a little jab here or there is more likely IMO. So he remains what he was. Our best RB to date. No one will really care he got upset about the owner and his mom. Needle doesn't move IMO

thank you. some people can't separate the two. I would love Williams even today if he had a salary/cap hit a 32 year old RB of his current ability deserved....and proper insertion into the committee. As for the years after his contract, it was never about him personally.....about the scenario the FO created. Most simply saw Williams and negative and flipped. Same stuff when I dared mention prior to 2013 that 89 was likely done anytime now....I was deemed to "hate" 89. No, he is my favorite player to date. But with a new GM/HC that didn't draft.....an old man being a pain in the rump was going to be shown the door if he didn't retire early on his own. Life and business of the NFL. I also thought Beason was done.....then that mean I hated him too. Beason was awesome. But injury is injury. Can't hope everyone will defy odds and be a Thomas Davis. Gotta play the smart odds majority of the time and move on. I disliked Dave when he was hired....but he pretty much has removed all the real issues this team has. I like his approach. No more soapboxes for me in sight.

In fairness the media outlet portrayed what the interview was about in a certain light Williams also promoted the interview All to get attention.....and they got it. Then they told the real story. So the lead up is basically what they asked for

The news outlet pitched the story that the Panthers didn't acknowledge his mom's passing and no one showed at the funeral. So people watched And bascially what they sold wasn't what Williams ended up saying. Which is basically how it works. All in all....Panthers did reach out, one even attended the funeral. Williams just wanted more

No one said Hardy was a cancer No one said he is even a bad guy All that is said he isnt the type player you can invest a huge portion of your cap in....he makes poor decisions.

Hardy LOL

Williams did say he was surprised with how "cool he was with being cut" and in hindsight wishes he was more demonstrative in the meeting. Whatver that means.... This is I guess him saying what he was suppose to say to Dave maybe....or simply wants an audience for it