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Ray Rice was punished. AP was punsihed. So the suspensions were overturned Hardy hasn't been punished

Congrats dude. That is awesome. sidenote - Your Delhomme vid always got me

Well, I'm just talking about what is going to happen. What I think is fair and the NFL policy should be may be different....but my opinion on that is the NFL has always been soft on players unless it makes headlines. So they added the vague conduct detrimental junk to appease people when the press gets bad

All your focus is on what it means from a legal perspective.... NFL perspective is a different conversation. NFL will and has punished without someone even being charged

Yep. Only other info NFL has to consider is that the girl was paid off to prevent the jury trial. While not an admission of guilt it does Hardy no favors in regards to the NFL looking at him.....nor does the way he carried himself during the first court appearance. Hardy from the public's perspective is lumped into this 2014 clump of poor behavior of players....and you can argue he was, even if innocent, by the company he elected to keep.... It isn't about what people think is fair. Hardy is getting punished bc NFL has wording to in it's policy to discupline and make examples of players in scenarios like this.

Okay....then he was charged and arrested for a violent crime and pays off a girl before the court date. Again, through the NFL eyes THAT is gonna get you some form punishment in today's NFL. doesnt seem like you even grasp my arguement

Conduct detrimental

Last thing I'll say before I go eat... People confuse something. The fact he doesn't have a guilty verdict....doesn't mean punishment should be thrown out the window. That means he doesn't go to jail or face legal punishment. His job is a totally different ballgame.

I say he was found guilty bc he was. I say he appealed I say he paid her off before round 2 And I say the quirky NC law that voids the first verdict technically speaking ....isn't something that makes it all go away for Hardy in terms of the NFL looking. He will be punished. That is what I say.

Maybe. Maybe he would have had a bad year and broke his leg. That would have hurt his future earning potential.

Don't know. Don't really care that much. I emotionally moved on from Hardy long ago

Carolina was punished in 2014. Hardy not much. Also Hardy and his agent elected to go on the list. Bc they wanted the paid season of vacation....

I don't know if he is innocent or guilty....wasn't there. I know he was found guilty. He appealed. Then he paid her off and never had a round 2. I wouldn't put my hard on money on claiming he was mostly likely innocent. NC quirky law has nothing to do with how I would view wager on someone in a given scenario

There are guys who never get charged with a crime that get punished. This isn't the legal system. We are talking about the NFL. They can and do punish guys for making them look bad....they don't need a court or a guilty verdict or even a charge

People don't like reality... I have learned that

What I am saying is mentioning the odd NC law doesn't really mean that much..... Bc if you have 2 players with identical scenarios and cases and one state my throw it out and one may keep the verdict. NFL when looking at it likely will treat both roughly the same if that one oddity is the only difference. Hardy is going to get a little punishment. No one should cry about it

Doesn't matter how the law works in NC.....not in this discussion. That only matters when talking about Greg's legal situation. We aren't talking about that.... What would happen in another state? Would it matter? Sure it would. Just b/c NC has a quirky law doesn't mean it doesn't matter for Hardy but would have someone in Calif that doesn't have that quirk law....NFL would look at both the same. B/c the only difference is the quirk....and that really doesn't matter.

I paid attention. I stick with my guess if I was forced to bet MY money on what happened.....and was told I would then have a video feed of went down after I guess? I'm guessing both them did stuff that would have gotten both arrested that night. and saying something stupid was basically a HUGE part of his charge.

no reason Hardy would sign a one year cheap deal. it would be dumb....and his agent ain't that dumb (nor is Hardy)

how is he likely innocent? He got a guilty verdict...he appealed...then he paid her off....then chargers were dismissed. IMO, the safest bet if you had to guess what happened....both he and she were probably both guilty that night. I think he likely gets 1-2 games for conduct detrimental.

Think she helps him co-host a cancer thing every year

DWill is gone. Personally I'm done with all 34 threads unless we are ranking our all time RBs or ranking the top 5 worst contracts in our history

Drafted and retire as a player shouldn't be something we want outside of 1 day deals where someone comes back. Unless a player walks away from the game early....everyone should be cut.

Williams and his people were so busy trying to make him being cut focused on something other than him being old, expensive and not very good......that they done messed up.

Not to get off topic....but you got any plans for a Kelvin or Stewart 2015 highlight vid?