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and his release motion allowed him to be the overall most accurate QB in this draft who rarely turned it over..... think the Bears learned a lesson after overthinking the obvious when it comes to QBs. Fields is the Watson of this draft.

You can find a TV personality selling every narrative under the sun lol. Fields went undefeated in the regular season over 2 seasons....in a power 5 conference....and outshined Lawrence head to head. Was drafted 12th. Pretty sure he is the talent most think he is. But you and Chris Simms have at it.

Context was MoveTheSticks said Carolina was debating between two players as the Panthers were on the clock. Fields and Horn. And they had Fields as their 2nd rated QB in this draft.

Word was Fields was their 2nd rated QB in this draft. MoveTheSticks said it during the draft. Behind only the generational talent named Trevor. I don’t think it is outlandish to talk about how the Panthers are consistently botching the QB spot....which matters.

I think the argument is that when given the opportunity...you work on the first part first. The it’s a passing league part. If Fields works out vs if Horn works out....Fields is the better and more important/impactful puzzle piece.

I mean, the goal is to build a winning team. QB is most important piece to that goal. Rhule was forced into a position where he simply had to replace a Teddy caliber QB with the same. He did that. I supported kicking the tires on Sam. But that is all we are doing. It likely goes how that generally goes.

You got to be able to a score with those teams too though. We had Bradberry. And he held it down vs those guys as good as anyone could. I think the focus should be on the QB and the lines. Not the DBs and WRs.

Where someone is picked and who is available at the time....has a lot to do with how I critique the selection. our roster is Sam Darnold, Grier and PJ...and we passed up Fields for Horn. They are going to be rightfully blasted on how they handled that pick....until they prove their call was right.

Fields being there really adds a lot to my POV on this. So does how they have handled the QB spot in general since Tepper/Rhule aligned. Not a fan of how they are going about things of late there. My beef with Horn at 8 has to do with a lot more than Horn in a vacuum.

How much Gamecock football have you watched of late? Gamecocks fans have been blowing up my phone that aren’t Panther fans...laughing at Horn at 8. Not liking him at 8 isn’t outlandish.

I’ve loved every Gamecock we have acquired in the past. And defended many of them vs the huddle mob. I’m a Panther fan. I don’t give a poo where players come from. I hate Ohio St. I lobbied for Fields. . I watch a poo ton of Gameock football. I married one. My family packs into Willy B on Saturdays. I even catch some when the games are suppose to be decent because I just like football. Not liking Horn at 8 given the options...has little to do with his uniform in college. I can tell you Gamecocks right now that aren’t even talked about....that are going to be good players coming up shortly. Pending they stay.

Maybe. But we ain’t got the bodies to run a lot of press man right now. my reaction to the pick is what we are now.

He wasn’t great in 2019. So we can agree there? so that brings us to 2020. Gamecocks allowed 40 points per game. 40. A lot of his individual numbers were simply aided by the Gamecocks being so bad....teams just didn’t bother with him. Not out of fear as much as the Gamecocks couldn’t stop anything. So why even bother with the best of a horrible bunch. And he still showed a lot of same inconsistencies in 2020 when he did show up. Ramsey isn’t the niche DB Horn is. Horn is great at that niche. I give him that. And he has great physical skill set. I give him that too. I also like how he goes up to contest balls. I give him that. But he wasn’t a great DB IMO. In zone? Off man? He wasn’t great. We play far more zone than man. Which is why I don’t like the pick at 8. Given the options.

Lot of that is cherry picked and meaningless. For example, Alabama absolutely torched Horn. Overall, he really struggled to live with Smith’s release and route running, and Smith got him for a couple of big catches and could have easily had more. In total, Horn allowed five catches for 113 yards and a touchdown into his coverage, good for a passer rating of 145.8. This is as tough as competition gets, but it wasn’t pretty.

they did exactly what I thought they would do. but I honestly answered your question. Why are some not convinced? Because wasn’t a great college DB. He is a great athlete that can get physical in man coverage. That’s Horn. and I’ll bitch about them taking him at 8 for the week and then be done with it.

because he wasn’t great in college

Well, you generally expect a top 10 player to be a dominant college player. Horn wasn’t. not just be a good athlete who you think you can groom into a great football player.

I mean Sam already busted.

You could draft a DB in the 3rd round and just tell them to grab Mike Evans at the line. Horn gonna get beat downfield too much. Heck, even in his one singular college game where he managed to get his hands on the ball....he got beat badly deep.

Bears at least put together some decent teams around a QB. They made it to the postseason with trash QBs. it’s a better day 1 spot than jags, jets

Horrible. Horn wasn’t a great college DB. That’s what we get for getting a Seattle GM. Someone thinking he can recreate the Legion of Boom by picking guys who measure up good....off a football field. Marty Hurney was NEVER this stupid. Not in the first round.

Fields or Sewell. Nothing else. Please football gods!

Bengals gotta take Sewell here I think

They could draft Etienne at 8 and I will still watch in the end. But I will semi rage to the 2 DBs at 8 just cause I don’t like them at 8.