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In Will Grier’s one NFL start he took 5 sacks….and had a worse completion % than PJ did in his one start. He also had less yards, more INTs, less TDs, etc. Will Grier and PJ both aren't very good QBs. So yeah, I'll take the mobile QB given what our OL looks like. And again, PJ would be more useful prepping with our D before we play all the mobile QBs on the schedule.

KC I think is getting a little annoyed at him. He has followed up all those XP misses last year by missing this preseason

The reporters are also pretty blunt with what they are implying and the narrative being set with their questions at times….think some of that is Rhule dancing with them and just trying to run as counter to it as possible with an answer.

Not sure Nuk Hopkins would look elite with a busted Cam, Allen and Teddy throwing at him for 3 consecutive seasons.

I’ll guess the guy from Temple as next

So you think DJ and Robby are the same tier WR? I would say he would walk then if Carolina viewed it is as such. The market for him is clearly being set by others and he can get it. I’d tell him not to sign here if I was in his camp. If Sam can throw it downfield DJ willl have a great year. If Darnold can’t he will do what he has done the last two. Either way, someone I think will pay him at least what Golladay can get + the yearly inflated bump added on.

What do you think he would go for? Golladay and Robinson types are currently setting the bar present day at about 18 million. Allen and Cooper are at 20.

I don’t know what did or didn’t happen. I can only speculate. Which is what people do here. but Robby and his agent wanting that deal before the season started….is common sense. To claim otherwise to that part, is throwing common sense out the window.

I’d rather you just stick to this conversation where you to tell me some more about why it doesn’t really matter to Robby and his agent when a deal gets done. Preseason or week 8…..it’s all the same per Mr Scott. That blown ACL wouldn’t impact anything. Carolina would just offer him the same deal as if it never happened.

there are decades of players and agents discussing the scenario in great detail. And Robbie and his team being sane and wanting a deal for Robby before the season starts….is common sense being applied to the situation. and Robby got his deal. Before the season started. You would be a horrible agent if you didn’t think that timing mattered. Robby’s agent did a good thing for Robby. Now he has real insurance for the season.

it’s just basic business. Protection. Robby blows his ACL week 1….he gets fugged if his agent didn’t get that deal done. that’s not a new concept. It’s been talked about for decades in the NFL. and it’s great for Robbie. He has a good agent. One that looked out for Robby’s best interest.

The two 1000k WR feat isn’t a very common thing you see in the NFL.

Maybe, but that also featured Teddy. A QB who had spent years in a comparable pass scheme with a built in clock to get rid of the ball quick. I just see them going much more CMC heavy in the pass scheme than those opening Teddy games with Sam. and I admittedly have been super high on Marshall since the moment he was drafted. So I’m bringing that baggage with me. Think there are high odds he falls in line pretty quick. Which is why I preferred them to wait and see what he really looked like…..and then make the Robby decision.

I have CMC hovering around 900ish as realistic. Sam’s last season the Jets actually tried Bell was 2nd on the team in receptions. So it’s not like Sam isn’t likely to make good use of the best receiver out of the backfield in the business.

On the team

Would it shock anyone if Robby was 3rd in receiving yards and 4th in rec TDs this year? In that context, it just doesn’t seem like the best way to go about it for me.

Robby IMO had odds of being expendable. Marshall/Shi could of made that so. Overall, our passing options had good odds of being strong with our without Robby. I think they should of waited and see it play out. and then you take Robby's money/cap space and use it a position that really needs addressing. Like OL, QB, LB, etc.

Deals impact other deals. Deals impact who ultimately stays and goes. I'm a DJ guy. Said before this deal occurred, I wanted them to address DJ first and foremost. He is the dude. Worth noting, DJ isn't a Rhule guy or a Fitterer guy. Which often matters in the NFL. and of course, then there is the whole "freakout" narrative. Lots of people can disagree with stuff. It doesn't mean furniture is being flipped. It's just sports. Bitching about stuff is half the fun of professional sports.

Golladay just signed a deal for 18. An old Julio just signed a deal for 22. So I would say you look at deals like....and whatever you think he is worth off those numbers. You add to it. Because time will inflate what it ends up being.

yeah, we don't if that was true or not. But we know he isn't going to be playing any longer under the worst case scenario. and it was based on common sense and NFL history. Robby would have been correct in wanting a deal BEFORE this season started. An injury would fug him. That's just business.

What do you think I was trying to prove?

the "conspiracy theory", or at least one I was aware of, was Robby didn't want to play football this season without a new deal. Here is the deal.

reminder, Samuel just signed a 3 year/ 34 mill deal. they overpaid Rhule's Robby IMO. And now there are high odds DJ Moore walks away. The better younger WR on the roster. That doesn't seem smart.

They have attempts an almost identical number of passes in actual NFL games. PJ edges him in about every aspect that exists in the stat column. That is not an argument that PJ is better. It’s just one that in actual games there isn’t much of argument that Will Grier is somehow better in that department